From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What holds the release Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:06:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8564wi2ag7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17070.36649.525270.871681@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118840925 12020 80.91.229.2 (15 Jun 2005 13:08:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 15:08:36 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiXcy-0007Bl-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:08:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiXiB-0004Ad-J2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:13:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiXhZ-0003u4-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiXhR-0003or-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiXhR-0003mk-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:12:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1DiXdC-0008GT-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DiXWS-0006BU-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:01:36 +0200 Original-Received: from user.ifsab.se ([193.41.170.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:01:36 +0200 Original-Received: from brakjoller by user.ifsab.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:01:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: user.ifsab.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4bEl+lxSik0Lb9xtx+OL6cpILew= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38874 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38874 "John S. Yates, Jr." writes: > As a non-developer/lurker, who does NOT run a CVS pre-release emacs > but simply a fairly stock 21.4, I suspect that the team that > participates in this list has long since lost track of what the > standard distribution feels like. Do you all not run some fairly > recent snapshot with all the accumulated features and fixes for > which the rest of the world has been waiting year? (I run CVS Emacs to get some late features I need.) I would just like to comment that quite often in gnu.emacs.help, users get the answer "...which you can find in Emacs CVS.". Nothing wrong with that in itself, but many people does not know how to access that or how to build or do not want to run CVS-code and they might feel hopeless. Better to say something like "that will be fixed in the next release. If you dare, and have the knowledge to do it, try out Emacs CVS. If not, you have to wait".