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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: File menu changes (suggestions)
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:20:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uis00feq0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICEEMJCJAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>

> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:13:02 -0700
> 
> For a new name for "New File", recent discussion has included candidates
> Visit New File and New File Buffer.
> 
> As I said in my original post, which started this, the problem here is
> "New". The best name for this Emacs operation is, as in the past, "Open". I
> gave reasons previously.

What I say below will probably be ignored, but I feel I must say it
anyway.

The current discussion and the suggested changes is nothing more than
a regress: we are slowly going back to the less compatible names and
structure we had before Emacs 21.1 hit the streets.

I think we should leave the menus alone.  It took a lot of work to
come to what we have now, the result exists for quite some time, and
it didn't make users unhappy.  As they say, the enemy of "good" is
"better".

And on top of that, now is not the time.  Let's leave any changes in
the menus for Emacs 23, which will have changes anyway, due to
Unicode.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-27  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-19 23:25 File menu changes (suggestions) Drew Adams
2005-06-20  4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-20  7:03   ` David Kastrup
2005-06-20 16:53   ` Drew Adams
2005-06-20 20:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-20 20:48       ` Drew Adams
2005-06-21  2:01     ` Richard Stallman
2005-06-21  7:59     ` Mathias Dahl
2005-06-21  9:19       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-26  4:46 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26  5:29   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 22:42     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26 22:52       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 23:13       ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27  7:20         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-06-27  7:37       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-06-27  9:25         ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 13:29           ` David Kastrup
2005-06-28  4:16         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-26 18:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 18:00     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-26 19:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 18:20         ` Drew Adams
2005-06-26 19:41           ` John S. Yates, Jr.
     [not found]             ` <42BF0E53.2020505@student.lu.se>
2005-06-27 12:51               ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:31                 ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 17:47                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-06-28  1:57                   ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:24           ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 16:18             ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27 18:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 18:13               ` Drew Adams
2005-06-27 22:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 22:33                   ` Drew Adams
2005-06-28  4:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-28  6:36                       ` David Kastrup
2005-06-26 18:30     ` Jason Rumney
2005-06-27  2:06       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27  7:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27  6:31           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 13:26             ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 18:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27  9:19         ` Jason Rumney
2005-06-27  9:41           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 18:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 20:05               ` David Kastrup
2005-06-27 20:47                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-27 21:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27  5:38     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-27  7:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-27 11:40         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-27 13:26           ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-27 18:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <42C044F3.60606@student.lu.se>
     [not found]                 ` <uzmtbeam9.fsf@gnu.org>
2005-06-27 21:06                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 18:46               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-28 18:54                 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-29 16:05                 ` Sticks! (was: File menu changes (suggestions)) Drew Adams
2005-06-28  4:17             ` File menu changes (suggestions) Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-28  6:39               ` David Kastrup
2005-06-28  5:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-28  7:17     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 10:05     ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-30 21:30       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-30 22:15         ` Miles Bader
2005-07-01 22:45           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-02  2:32             ` Miles Bader
2005-06-28 15:28     ` Drew Adams
2005-06-28 16:01       ` Lennart Borgman
2005-06-28 19:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-28 21:36       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-28 22:00         ` David Kastrup
2005-06-30  7:40           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-29  3:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-06-29  4:45           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-29 18:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-29 23:46               ` Miles Bader
2005-06-30  1:44           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-30  5:38           ` David Kastrup
2005-06-29 20:43         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-01  1:45     ` public
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-21 15:51 File menu changes (suggestions) / Options menu David Reitter
2005-06-22 12:32 ` File menu changes (suggestions) John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23  0:46   ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23  2:26     ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23  2:31       ` Miles Bader
2005-06-23 11:18         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-23 11:39           ` Miles Bader
2005-06-24  5:36           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-25  1:24             ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-06-25 16:40               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-24 10:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-06-26 19:04 David Reitter
2005-06-27  5:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-06-27  8:04 LENNART BORGMAN
2005-06-27  9:24 ` Miles Bader
2005-06-27 20:01   ` Johan Bockgård
2005-06-30  8:53 LENNART BORGMAN

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