From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Displaying LRM and RLM Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:32:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20081220104506.GV11238@rzlab.ucr.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229772757 26573 80.91.229.12 (20 Dec 2008 11:32:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Don Armstrong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 20 12:33:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LE05W-000706-Rf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:33:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36790 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LE04K-0001pa-7J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:32:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LE04F-0001oQ-Kt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:32:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LE04E-0001oC-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:32:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35227 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LE04E-0001o6-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:32:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]:14867) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LE04E-00010r-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:32:22 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout6.012.net.il by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KC600F00ANC5E00@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:34:49 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.252.83]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KC600HO5AU0OM60@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:34:49 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20081220104506.GV11238@rzlab.ucr.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107114 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:45:06 -0800 > From: Don Armstrong > > On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > What should Emacs 23 display for these two characters (U+200E and > > U+200F)? On MS-Windows they are displayed as blanks; I need to type > > "C-u C-x =" to see that these are not blanks. Is that right? > > These are the LRM and RLM; they're zero-width symbols that change the > direction of text. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-to-right_mark > et al. Well, I know very well what they are; see the Subject. I was asking how we should display them. I think displaying them as blanks without any visual cue to the fact that they aren't is misleading. E.g., NBSP is displayed specially, for that very reason.