From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Build-time dependencies Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:25:11 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20080606155915.GA3953@muc.de> <20080606203541.GA1741@muc.de> <20080607095024.GC1812@muc.de> <20080607200821.GI1812@muc.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212953173 16721 80.91.229.12 (8 Jun 2008 19:26:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 08 21:26:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K5QXR-0002vr-LF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:26:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48638 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5QWe-00076Z-Fq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:26:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5QWY-000749-W5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:25:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K5QWW-00072J-Tt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40039 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K5QWW-000725-Na for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:25:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]:11223) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K5QWS-0007Gq-PQ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:25:49 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([80.230.28.131]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K2500KDTTB019P0@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:40:23 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98722 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:03:07 -0400 > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > I think it should be easy to generate the dependencies from bytecomp.el > > (just record macros as we expand them, and then try and figure out > > which file they come from). This way they could be kept uptodate > > 100% automatically. > > What exactly is the point of doing this supposed to be? > To make non-bootstrap builds more reliable? To make dependencies between Lips files explicit in lisp/Makefile.in, and thus causing Make to compile Lisp files in the right order. Right now, whenever some Lisp files change, I frequently need to "make recompile" several times, sometimes removing stale *.elc files manually, until it finally succeeds, because it basically compiles them in a random order.