From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: header-line and mode-line faces Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:41:17 +0300 Message-ID: References: <00a301c8cd91$930576e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <00bd01c8ce3e$3e949c00$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213472491 7695 80.91.229.12 (14 Jun 2008 19:41:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 14 21:42:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K7bde-0006cI-Ix for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:42:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40251 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K7bcq-0001d6-KN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K7bcm-0001cj-Ot for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K7bcm-0001cK-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47212 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K7bcm-0001cE-0V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout4.012.net.il ([84.95.2.10]:23933) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K7bcl-0001ya-Pn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.242.237]) by i_mtaout4.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K2G00KJ2Y1XTGG3@i_mtaout4.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:56:22 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <00bd01c8ce3e$3e949c00$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99210 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:46:50 -0700 > > > > I don't think that is a good idea. The default value should > > > just inherit from face `mode-line'. > > > I don't see why. Please explain more. > > Uh, so you can customize just the mode-line face and have the header-line face > reflect the change. This can be said about all the other faces as well. I hope you don't argue that they should all be alike by default. > > > Users should be able to customize face `mode-line' and have face > > > `header-line' follow suite. > > > > Why? they are different faces used for different portions of display. > > They should be different by default so people could easily tell one > > from the other. > > They are different faces, and you can also customize them separately. > > But header-line inherits from mode-line *today*. Why? Because they are very similar. But the disagreement between us is not about the inheritance, it's about identity. A face can inherit from another and still be different in small ways.