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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 23 character code space
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:26:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uhc5ugrok.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1L5CTq-0006z0-U0@etlken.m17n.org>

> From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> CC: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:58:26 +0900
> 
> I'll explain it a little bit more.  To decode a character
> sequence to a byte sequence, Emacs actually does two kinds
> of decoding as below:
> 
>              (1)                                (2)
> characters <-----> (charset code-point) pairs <-----> bytes

Can you give a couple of examples, for some popular charsets, and how
we decode bytes into characters thru these pairs of charsets and code
points?

> For the decoding of (1), Emacs uses infomaiton of coding
> system to decide which charset to use, and then uses
> informaiton of the selected charset to get a code point.
> 
> For the decoding of (2) Emacs uses only information of
> coding system.

Thanks.  What confuses me is that, roughly, there's a charset in Emacs
23 for every coding-system, and they both have almost identical names.
For example, the code point of a-umlaut in the iso-8859-1 charset is
exactly identical to the byte value produced by encoding that
character with iso-8859-1 coding-system.  So I wonder why we need
both in Emacs.  Why can't we, for example, decode bytes directly into
Emacs characters?




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-26 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-01 14:20 Emacs 23 character code space Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-01 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03  1:34 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-03 12:45   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-03 20:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04  7:35       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-04 20:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-05 12:27           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-05 18:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-22 18:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-26  1:41               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-26  4:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-26  4:24                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-26  4:58                     ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-26 20:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-11-26 22:52                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-27  1:10                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-11-27  1:35                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-26 20:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-27  1:29                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-29 17:12                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-02  5:40                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-28 13:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-02  5:44                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-12-02 19:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-29 12:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-22 16:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-23  4:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-23 11:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-26  1:51         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-23  8:29       ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-11-23 11:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-23 11:55           ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-11-24  3:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-26  1:31       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-11-22 17:03     ` New function: what-file-line, used when writing gdb script richardeng
2008-11-07  7:21 ` Emacs 23 character code space Kenichi Handa
2008-11-07 10:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 11:52     ` Kenichi Handa

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