From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 22 branch created. Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:14:03 +0300 Message-ID: References: <871wi9jw37.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <462E7B94.3000008@gnu.org> <462F0A07.50104@gnu.org> <864pn4an8j.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86zm4w97du.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070425195026.GA19472@printf.se> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177535664 4564 80.91.229.12 (25 Apr 2007 21:14:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Henrik Enberg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 25 23:14:18 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HgooX-00071j-4B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:14:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HgouB-0001hm-TJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hgou8-0001gU-Qu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:20:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hgou7-0001ek-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:20:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hgou7-0001eZ-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:19:59 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HgooR-0001Ib-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-229-247-107.inter.net.il [84.229.247.107]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id HRR97898 (AUTH halo1); Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:14:02 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20070425195026.GA19472@printf.se> (message from Henrik Enberg on Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:50:26 +0200) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70134 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:50:26 +0200 > From: Henrik Enberg > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > I'd also like to remind us the rmail-mbox branch, which we also wanted > > to merge post-22.1. > > I'm not sure it is suitable for immediate merging IMO, if it's not merged now, it will be another long wait. So we had better merge it now and fix all that needs fixing, while most people are using the pretest branch. > * At the moment, it is slightly worse than current Rmail when it comes > to non-ascii support. One of the major points of moving to the mbox > format is to be compatible with external tools, and that rules out > storing mailboxes in emacs-mule form, which old Rmail does. I'm > still not sure what the best approach here would be here. UTF-8? > Raw text? Neither. I think you should encode it and store it encoded, like it would be when it comes from the wire. > * Gnus BABYL support will break. Since the new Rmail no longer knows > how to decode BABYL, neither will Gnus. Why cannot we retain the BABYL support? It won't hurt leaving it alone: e.g., all my email archives are in BABYL format, and I'd like to be able to read them, even if only thru unrmail or b2m. > * The mime support is _very_ basic, but I guess that's not really a > change from old Rmail. Yes, that is not a problem, since the current Rmail doesn't support MIME at all.