From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Merging multitty Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:49:14 +0300 Message-ID: References: <2wmz0iriyj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fy65k6eh.fsf@red-bean.com> <853b25lk43.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <86bqgr3g1h.fsf_-_@lola.quinscape.zz> <87k5vdse1d.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <17990.33223.288460.294949@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87ejlls8rl.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <464841DC.7040801@lorentey.hu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179262246 1830 80.91.229.12 (15 May 2007 20:50:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, karoly@lorentey.hu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 15 22:50:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ho3yf-00067D-7U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 22:50:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ho46Z-0002ad-9z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:58:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ho45N-00020o-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ho45M-000204-A1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ho45M-0001zd-4W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ho3xP-0003SP-HP; Tue, 15 May 2007 16:49:19 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-229-239-87.inter.net.il [84.229.239.87]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id HVT87862 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 15 May 2007 23:49:12 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 15 May 2007 05:46:41 -0400) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71122 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 05:46:41 -0400 > Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles.bader@necel.com, > miles@gnu.org > > I think Miles was talking about the CVS log, not ChangeLog. > > These are two ways of representing the change log. > Do you really think that the CVS log is not important? > > If it is acceptable to tell people, "don't look at the CVS log, > always look at ChangeLog", then we could be sloppy about the CVS > log. But I don't think the CVS log is that unimportant. > I look there for info, and I think others do too. CVS log entries are indeed very important because they are linked to specific CVS versions, while the ChangeLog entries are not. Thus, without CVS logs, it is very hard to reproduce the _exact_ source level changes that were installed. However, in this particular case, the entire multi-tty branch is being merged in one swell whoop, so individual CVS log entries for each and every change will not add any useful info at all. Thus, I think in this case it is okay to have a full list of changes either in CVS or in ChangeLog (whichever is easier for the folks who do the arch-to-CVS conversion), but it is not necessary to have both.