From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:22:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <20071231130712.GB8641@thyrsus.com> <20071231214108.GD26639@thyrsus.com> <18297.29827.712943.195363@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <20080101005051.GH26639@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199161386 6736 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2008 04:23:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 04:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 01 05:23:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J9Yes-0001Jb-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:23:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9YeX-00037o-6c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:22:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9YeT-00036B-MU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:22:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9YeR-00032y-Rr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:22:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9YeR-00032c-L7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:22:51 -0500 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9YeR-0002PJ-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:22:51 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-13-14.inter.net.il [80.230.13.14]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id ISE10589 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 1 Jan 2008 06:20:18 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20080101005051.GH26639@thyrsus.com> (esr@thyrsus.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85800 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:50:51 -0500 > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Nick Roberts : > > Stating that Emacs has weak leadership is a ridiculous assertion as it's > > a highly successful project by any standards. > > The "weak leadership" characterization was Eli's, not mine. I didn't say "weak leadership", I said head maintainers that have more time to spend on Emacs development and leadership than what we have now.