From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs mode line suggestions Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:39:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <15962952-6180-41bd-abce-1b919aa55807@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <39353809-6edf-4b7e-aae2-e0dd4d614c61@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226954432 29490 80.91.229.12 (17 Nov 2008 20:40:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:40:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 17 21:41:34 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L2AuW-0007iZ-6R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:41:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44560 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L2AtN-00032b-CJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:40:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L2At1-000325-Im for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:39:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L2At0-00031J-QG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:39:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49803 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L2At0-000318-M6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:39:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il ([84.95.2.13]:13806) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L2At0-0005Cw-BH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:39:54 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KAH00H00UKPMI00@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:41:48 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.205.49]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KAH001ZSW5O1W40@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:41:48 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <39353809-6edf-4b7e-aae2-e0dd4d614c61@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59874 Archived-At: > From: Xah > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:17:44 -0800 (PST) > > > > typically, a user has several user buffers open, and as far as i guess > > > many programers who use emacs extensively has like hundreds of buffers > > > open. Cycling them one by one is not much useful. > > > > No one in their right mind will cycle buffers. This feature exists if > > your buffer is one or two away. Anything more than that, you should > > use the menu-bar's Buffers menu (or select the buffer by its name with > > C-x b). > > So, when clicking on the buffer name, showing a menu is more useful > than cycling buffer. As I already said, I disagree: if I need to switch to a buffer that is just one buffer away in either direction, with the current behavior I get that in one click. With your suggestion, clicking on the buffer name would be the same as Buffers from the menu bar, and this duplication of functionality is a waste of scarce resources, IMO. > > > switching between modes is not rarely used. I'd estimate it is used > > > every other hour at least. > > > > Please provide some use-cases to back this up. FWIW, I almost never > > switch the major mode in the same buffer, unless Emacs didn't switch > > into the right one to begin with, and even then I only do that once in > > a given buffer. > > those who use *scratch*, or create new buffer, or create new file... > he may need to switch to the righ lang mode. Usually, creating a new file with C-x C-f already switches on the right mode. And even if Emacs somehow gets this wrong, it's a one-time event for that buffer. > Sometimes when such buffer is used as a scratch, programer may have > more than one lang inserted into it, and may switch to different > mode for the right syntax coloring. Is this frequent usage? I never use Emacs like that, but that's me.