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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs mode line suggestions
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:39:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ufxlqm6hu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39353809-6edf-4b7e-aae2-e0dd4d614c61@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

> From: Xah <xahlee@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:17:44 -0800 (PST)
> 
> > > typically, a user has several user buffers open, and as far as i guess
> > > many programers who use emacs extensively has like hundreds of buffers
> > > open. Cycling them one by one is not much useful.
> >
> > No one in their right mind will cycle buffers.  This feature exists if
> > your buffer is one or two away.  Anything more than that, you should
> > use the menu-bar's Buffers menu (or select the buffer by its name with
> > C-x b).
> 
> So, when clicking on the buffer name, showing a menu is more useful
> than cycling buffer.

As I already said, I disagree: if I need to switch to a buffer that is
just one buffer away in either direction, with the current behavior I
get that in one click.  With your suggestion, clicking on the buffer
name would be the same as Buffers from the menu bar, and this
duplication of functionality is a waste of scarce resources, IMO.

> > > switching between modes is not rarely used. I'd estimate it is used
> > > every other hour at least.
> >
> > Please provide some use-cases to back this up.  FWIW, I almost never
> > switch the major mode in the same buffer, unless Emacs didn't switch
> > into the right one to begin with, and even then I only do that once in
> > a given buffer.
> 
> those who use *scratch*, or create new buffer, or create new file...
> he may need to switch to the righ lang mode.

Usually, creating a new file with C-x C-f already switches on the
right mode.  And even if Emacs somehow gets this wrong, it's a
one-time event for that buffer.

> Sometimes when such buffer is used as a scratch, programer may have
> more than one lang inserted into it, and may switch to different
> mode for the right syntax coloring.

Is this frequent usage?  I never use Emacs like that, but that's me.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-17 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.215.1226562978.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-14 23:18 ` emacs mode line suggestions Xah
2008-11-15  1:02   ` xahlee
2008-11-15  9:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <mailman.423.1226741023.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16  1:54     ` Xah
2008-11-16 18:12       ` Ian Eure
2008-11-18  9:39         ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-11-18 23:25           ` Xavier Maillard
2008-11-16 21:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <mailman.518.1226859137.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 18:20         ` Richard Riley
2008-11-16 23:12           ` Ian Eure
2008-11-17  8:37             ` Paul R
2008-11-17 15:45               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]               ` <mailman.604.1226937124.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 16:11                 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-17 18:53                   ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 19:10                     ` Richard Riley
2008-11-17 19:57                       ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 20:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.621.1226951870.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 21:42                         ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18  0:55                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.641.1226969742.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-18  1:08                             ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18  2:55                               ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 23:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-18  7:52                 ` Paul R
2008-11-18 13:48                   ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]           ` <mailman.543.1226877138.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 23:35             ` Richard Riley
2008-11-16 22:45         ` Xah
     [not found]       ` <mailman.536.1226871605.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 23:17         ` Xah
2008-11-17 20:39           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-11-17 23:46             ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-18  0:31               ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-18  9:32               ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-11-18  9:58                 ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]             ` <mailman.633.1226964831.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-18  9:46               ` Fabrice Niessen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.623.1226954396.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 22:09             ` Xah
2008-11-18  2:33               ` B. T. Raven
2008-11-18  3:24                 ` Xah
2008-11-18  4:58                   ` B. T. Raven
2008-11-18  6:54                     ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18  4:11               ` Eli Zaretskii

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