From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release update Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:21:34 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87abaocmay.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <001901c96489$97132040$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1230006108 29663 80.91.229.12 (23 Dec 2008 04:21:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 23 05:22:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LEynG-0006nf-Vv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:22:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59674 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEym4-0006ch-3u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:21:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LEylv-0006cZ-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LEylv-0006cN-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35500 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEylu-0006cK-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:21:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il ([84.95.2.4]:51333) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LEylu-0007Tn-9T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:21:30 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KCB00000A96KP00@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:23:59 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.252.83]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KCB007NTAVY8040@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:23:59 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <001901c96489$97132040$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:107221 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:04:05 -0800 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Another noticeable problem is the time it takes Emacs to start up. I know that > people have tried to improve this, but for me this startup time has not changed, > as of this build: > > In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) > of 2008-12-19 on LENNART-69DE564 > Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 > configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include > -fno-crossjumping' > > Whether I use my own setup of a standalone minibuffer frame and one other, > principal frame or I use emacs -Q, the startup time is about the same. And > that's true whether I start by editing a file or Dired or just start with > *scratch*. > > With my own setup, it takes on average 15-20 seconds for the initial frame to > appear, and another 10 seconds for my two-frame setup to finish. emacs -Q takes > 15-20 seconds on average for the frame to appear. The command I use is this: > runemacs.exe -Q --debug-init. This is on a 1-year-old laptop with 2G RAM and > pretty good processors. > > The startup time is variable, for some reason. Sometimes it is much less (as if > something were cached), sometimes it is a little more. Usually it is about 15-20 > sec. Does the disk LED flicker considerably during the long startups?