From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Joe Casadonte" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus: mark-expirable vs. delete Date: 15 Jun 2003 11:48:00 -0400 Organization: Llama Fresh Farms, Neare Paraguay Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055692426 20262 80.91.224.249 (15 Jun 2003 15:53:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 15 17:53:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19RZp4-0005GI-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:53:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19RZrf-0005Vz-Ug for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:56:19 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!in.nntp.be!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!posted1.newshosting.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 Original-Lines: 66 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 6e418b10.news.newshosting.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=`bDa>7:66]e]0JF7IDmVObC:[FZ=bZR8aDDFYG9aUT8i?=]1b0k0djid^ONP;<^3og[W5[7T750b Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@newshosting.com Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:114459 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:10951 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:10951 On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Johan Bockgård wrote: > "Joe Casadonte" writes: > >> So the question is, can I do it both ways, mark some messages as >> expirable and some as delete-it-now? > > You can delete them explicitly. > > ,---- > | B DEL runs the command gnus-summary-delete-article > | [...] > | Delete the N next (mail) articles. > | [...] > | If N is nil and articles have been marked with the process mark, > | delete these instead. > `---- Close, but not quite what I want. And there's something strange with it, too. What I was looking for was something to mark the message as deletable, which I can sort of do with the process mark, but that interferes with anything else I may be doing with the process mark. It's not as nicely done as `gnus-summary-mark-as-expirable', IMHO. I can live with this, though, as I don't often use the process mark for other things. The strange part kills this option for me, however. When I do something like "C-u 200 RET" in the Group window (runs `gnus-topic-select-group' or `gnus-group-select-group' with an argument of 200), it seems to be counting those now-deleted articles as part of the 200, and what I wind up with is some number less than 200 (e.g. 200 => 36, 450 => 257). The whole point of this (for me) was that when I went back looking for an old email, I didn't have to sift through the cruft. I'd have to repeat the request with ever larger numbers until I found the article I wanted. Now, as the articles are deleted, I do indeed not have to sift through them, but I'm also not getting the number of articles I've asked for, and so I have to repeat the request over and over again until I've guessed what it is that will give me the article I'm looking for. Pretty much the same thing, as far as I'm concerned. Any other options, or is this odd behavior fixed in a later version of Gnus (assuming it's a bug)? I'm using the 5.8.8 version of Gnus, if that helps. Thanks! -- Regards, joe Joe Casadonte jcasadonte@northbound-train.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Llama Fresh Farms => http://www.northbound-train.com Gay Media Resource List => http://www.northbound-train.com/gaymedia.html Perl for Win32 => http://www.northbound-train.com/perlwin32.html Emacs Stuff => http://www.northbound-train.com/emacs.html Music CD Trading => http://www.northbound-train.com/cdr.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Free, that's the message! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------