From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: allowing scroll to move point off screen Date: 14 Mar 2004 08:07:09 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1079245264 21629 80.91.224.253 (14 Mar 2004 06:21:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 06:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 14 07:20:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B2Ozb-0005be-00 for ; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:20:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B2OxJ-0004MU-Q7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 01:18:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B2OkT-00087l-Fv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 01:05:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B2Ojw-0007tT-14 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 01:05:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.232.27.5] (helo=WST0054) by monty-python.gnu.org with asmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B2Oju-0007pc-PE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2004 01:04:47 -0500 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-reply-to: (ynniv@cc.gatech.edu) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:17586 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:17586 > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:36:39 -0500 (EST) > From: "Vincent A. Fiano" > > I've been using emacs for many years, but I really like the way that the > simple GUI editors scroll - they leave the cursor at the same buffer > position even if it is off screen. This has the advantage of being able > to look at another part of the buffer, but snap back to your current > buffer position by typing or moving the point. > > It seems that keeping the point on the screen is hard coded into the > redisplay function of emacs Right. > but is there any way to allow the scroll bar and mouse wheel to move > the point off the screen? No. Keeping point visible at all times is one of the most important design goals of the Emacs redisplay engine. See the variable scroll-preserve-screen-position for something that might help you. Also, in Emacs you can have more than one window looking at the same buffer, each window with its own value of point.