Byte-compilation warnings

Byte-compilation warnings

[Florian Beck]

Hi!

When I byte-compile my elisp files I get lots of warnings concerning cl:

Warning: Function `evenp' from cl package called at runtime

I find that annoying because (a) it drowns important warnings and (b) it
is about a coding convention for packages distributed with Emacs that
does not concern me at the moment. Surely, Emacs maintainers are able to
determine if something from cl is called at run time without spamming the
compile log for every user.

How can I get rid of it?
-- 
Florian Beck

RE: Byte-compilation warnings

[Drew Adams]

> When I byte-compile my elisp files I get lots of warnings 
> concerning cl:
> 
> Warning: Function `evenp' from cl package called at runtime
> 
> I find that annoying because (a) it drowns important warnings 
> and (b) it is about a coding convention for packages
> distributed with Emacs that does not concern me at the moment.
> Surely, Emacs maintainers are able to
> determine if something from cl is called at run time without 
> spamming the compile log for every user.

I sympathize with you.

FWIW, however, I appreciate this warning (information, really) as a user. I want
to recognize when I might want to either code something differently or use
(eval-when-compile (require 'cl)).
 
> How can I get rid of it?

Dunno. It would be nice if compiler messages could be silenced in classes (e.g.
info, warnings). Maybe they can.

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Florian Beck]

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> When I byte-compile my elisp files I get lots of warnings 
>> concerning cl:
>> 
>> Warning: Function `evenp' from cl package called at runtime
>> 
>> I find that annoying because (a) it drowns important warnings 
>> and (b) it is about a coding convention for packages
>> distributed with Emacs that does not concern me at the moment.
>> Surely, Emacs maintainers are able to
>> determine if something from cl is called at run time without 
>> spamming the compile log for every user.
>
> I sympathize with you.
>
> FWIW, however, I appreciate this warning (information, really) as a user. I want
> to recognize when I might want to either code something differently or use
> (eval-when-compile (require 'cl)).

Alas, this only works for cl *macros*. If I could repress the faux
warnings by some code – that would be fine. Seems like I cannot.

This is really annoying, because it can easily result in *pages* of
spurious warnings I *know* to be unwarranted.

For me, byte compiler warnings would be a great way to avoid error,
would I not tend to ignore them because of the above problems. I can
work around `reference to free variable' warnings, but not the cl
warnings. 

The result is not me seriously considering the cl warnings but pretty
much disregarding all of them. Not very useful.

My point is, I might apprecciate the information *once*, but after that I
have made my deciscion. Further warnings only distract me.

-- 
Florian Beck, looking for (I-really-want-to-use-cl-even-at-eval)

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:01:54 +0200
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 'Florian Beck' <abstraktion@t-online.de>
> 
> For me, byte compiler warnings would be a great way to avoid error,
> would I not tend to ignore them because of the above problems. I can
> work around `reference to free variable' warnings, but not the cl
> warnings. 
> 
> The result is not me seriously considering the cl warnings but pretty
> much disregarding all of them. Not very useful.
> 
> My point is, I might apprecciate the information *once*, but after that I
> have made my deciscion. Further warnings only distract me.

You can always fset byte-compile-cl-warn to something like `ignore',
right?  Doesn't this work for some reason?

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

Florian Beck wrote:
> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 
>>> When I byte-compile my elisp files I get lots of warnings 
>>> concerning cl:
>>>
>>> Warning: Function `evenp' from cl package called at runtime

I did not follow this thread, but I wonder if the warning disappears if 
you require cl the right way:

   (eval-when-compile (require 'cl))

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Florian Beck]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>
>> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:01:54 +0200
>> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 'Florian Beck' <abstraktion@t-online.de>
>> 
>> For me, byte compiler warnings would be a great way to avoid error,
>> would I not tend to ignore them because of the above problems. I can
>> work around `reference to free variable' warnings, but not the cl
>> warnings. 
>> 
>> The result is not me seriously considering the cl warnings but pretty
>> much disregarding all of them. Not very useful.
>> 
>> My point is, I might apprecciate the information *once*, but after that I
>> have made my deciscion. Further warnings only distract me.
>
> You can always fset byte-compile-cl-warn to something like `ignore',
> right?  Doesn't this work for some reason?

It doesn't. I guess you mean `byte-compiler-warnings'; that results in

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (setting-constant t)
  fset(t ignore)
  eval((fset byte-compile-warnings (quote ignore)))
  eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
  eval-last-sexp(nil)
  call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)

Anyway, you gave me a lead and:

(setq-default byte-compile-warnings '(not cl-functions)) 

does seem to do the trick.

Thanks!

BTW, I coudn't find anyting in info »byte compiler warnings, how to
avoid«. You might want to consider it there.

I'm using current CVS, if that matters.
-- 
Florian Beck

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Florian Beck]

Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de> writes:

> It doesn't. I guess you mean `byte-compiler-warnings'; that results in
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (setting-constant t)
>   fset(t ignore)
>   eval((fset byte-compile-warnings (quote ignore)))
>   eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
>   eval-last-sexp(nil)
>   call-interactively(eval-last-sexp nil nil)

I'm sorry. I forgot to quote that:

(fset 'byte-compile-cl-warn 'ignore)

seems to work as well.

-- 
Florian Beck

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Nikolaj Schumacher]

Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de> wrote:

> Warning: Function `evenp' from cl package called at runtime
>
> [SNIP]
>
> How can I get rid of it?

Customize `byte-compile-warnings'.

Regards,
Nikolaj Schumacher

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

() "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
() Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:21:04 -0700

   compiler messages
   silenced in classes (e.g.
   info, warnings). Maybe they can.

See `byte-compile-warning-types'
and `byte-compile-warnings'.

This short list was made by:
(require 'bytecomp)
M-x apropos byte.*warn RET

and looking for entries that are marked "Variable:".

thi

Re: Byte-compilation warnings

[Tim X]

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> When I byte-compile my elisp files I get lots of warnings 
>> concerning cl:
>> 
>> Warning: Function `evenp' from cl package called at runtime
>> 
>> I find that annoying because (a) it drowns important warnings 
>> and (b) it is about a coding convention for packages
>> distributed with Emacs that does not concern me at the moment.
>> Surely, Emacs maintainers are able to
>> determine if something from cl is called at run time without 
>> spamming the compile log for every user.
>
> I sympathize with you.
>
> FWIW, however, I appreciate this warning (information, really) as a user. I want
> to recognize when I might want to either code something differently or use
> (eval-when-compile (require 'cl)).
>  
>> How can I get rid of it?
>
> Dunno. It would be nice if compiler messages could be silenced in classes (e.g.
> info, warnings). Maybe they can.
>

In Emacs CVS you have byte-compile-warnings 

,----[ C-h v byte-compile-warnings RET ]
| byte-compile-warnings is a variable defined in `bytecomp.el'.
| Its value is 
| (redefine callargs free-vars unresolved obsolete)
| 
| 
|   This variable is safe as a file local variable if its value
|   satisfies the predicate `byte-compile-warnings-safe-p'.
| 
| Documentation:
| *List of warnings that the byte-compiler should issue (t for all).
| 
| Elements of the list may be:
| 
|   free-vars   references to variables not in the current lexical scope.
|   unresolved  calls to unknown functions.
|   callargs    function calls with args that don't match the definition.
|   redefine    function name redefined from a macro to ordinary function or vice
|               versa, or redefined to take a different number of arguments.
|   obsolete    obsolete variables and functions.
|   noruntime   functions that may not be defined at runtime (typically
|               defined only under `eval-when-compile').
|   cl-functions    calls to runtime functions from the CL package (as
| 		  distinguished from macros and aliases).
|   interactive-only
| 	      commands that normally shouldn't be called from Lisp code.
|   make-local  calls to make-variable-buffer-local that may be incorrect.
|   mapcar      mapcar called for effect.
| 
| If the list begins with `not', then the remaining elements specify warnings to
| suppress.  For example, (not mapcar) will suppress warnings about mapcar.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
`----

However, I strongly suggest peole try to understand why they are getting
the warning and where possible, get rid of it by getting rid of the
cause rather than just hiding it. 

regards,

Tim


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