From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: utf-16le vs utf-16-le Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:20:20 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20080414070214.GA3956@www.trapp.net> <20080415073824.GA8466@www.trapp.net> <877iez3s7i.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208320885 23033 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2008 04:41:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 16 06:41:50 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JlyD9-0003lb-Li for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:21:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlyCU-0004E9-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:20:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlyCP-0004DG-L0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlyCO-0004CK-2g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlyCN-0004C7-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JlyCN-0007cB-9E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([83.130.246.94]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0JZE00GJCF9BZR70@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:34:24 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <877iez3s7i.fsf@jurta.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95325 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:30:41 +0300 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Unfortunately, now in Emacs 23 I see no BOM marks displayed at the > beginning of the buffer. I think Emacs should have a visual indication > for such hidden characters. Emacs behaves correctly IMO, since its behavior is tuned for reading text, and BOM is not part of the text. If you want to debug the programs that generated that text, you can always use no-conversion or find-file-literally.