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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology in multi-tty primitives
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:18:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ud4fcaz2c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878wq0j52s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu>

> From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:59 -0500
> 
> > But there's no delete-tty or suspend-terminal.
> 
> That seems consistent to me.  The delete-terminal function does
> something useful on both text and graphical terminals: for ttys, it
> returns control of the tty to the shell; on X, it closes the X
> connection.  On the other hand, suspending only makes sense for
> text-only terminals: it is used to temporarily return control to the
> shell.  There is no analogous operation on graphical displays.  Thus, we
> provide suspend-tty rather than suspend-terminal.

I think you are wrong about suspend making no sense on GUI terminals:
we have (in Emacs 23) suspend-frame that does work on GUI.

Anyway, the examples I gave were just that: examples.  Here's another
example: we have make-frame-on-display, make-frame-on-tty, and
make-terminal-frame; and then we have make-frame that can do all of
the above.  IMO, it's terribly confusing.

But again, maybe I'm the only one who is confused.  My confusion is
exasperated by the fact that I cannot find any useful methodical way
to describe all these functions with partially overlapping
functionality in the ELisp manual.  Suggestions welcome...




  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-28 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-27 18:23 Terminology in multi-tty primitives Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  1:00 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28  4:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28  4:28     ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 19:18       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-12-28 19:43         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-29  5:31         ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-29 19:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-29 22:09         ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-30  2:18           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-30 22:26             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  2:06               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  2:20                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31  3:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  4:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31  6:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 18:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:39                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 21:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:55                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 22:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 23:03                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 16:38                 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 17:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 19:05                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-01 17:13                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-02 13:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-03  2:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-03  9:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04  3:14                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-04  3:29                                 ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-04  3:41                                   ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-04  4:54                                     ` Chetan Pandya
2008-12-30 22:27             ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31  5:31               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31  6:28                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31  8:33                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 14:18                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-31 15:42                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-28 17:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-28 19:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 19:53   ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-27 18:16 Eli Zaretskii

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