From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology in multi-tty primitives
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:18:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ud4fcaz2c.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878wq0j52s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu>
> From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:28:59 -0500
>
> > But there's no delete-tty or suspend-terminal.
>
> That seems consistent to me. The delete-terminal function does
> something useful on both text and graphical terminals: for ttys, it
> returns control of the tty to the shell; on X, it closes the X
> connection. On the other hand, suspending only makes sense for
> text-only terminals: it is used to temporarily return control to the
> shell. There is no analogous operation on graphical displays. Thus, we
> provide suspend-tty rather than suspend-terminal.
I think you are wrong about suspend making no sense on GUI terminals:
we have (in Emacs 23) suspend-frame that does work on GUI.
Anyway, the examples I gave were just that: examples. Here's another
example: we have make-frame-on-display, make-frame-on-tty, and
make-terminal-frame; and then we have make-frame that can do all of
the above. IMO, it's terribly confusing.
But again, maybe I'm the only one who is confused. My confusion is
exasperated by the fact that I cannot find any useful methodical way
to describe all these functions with partially overlapping
functionality in the ELisp manual. Suggestions welcome...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-28 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-27 18:23 Terminology in multi-tty primitives Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 1:00 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-28 4:28 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-28 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-12-28 19:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-29 5:31 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-29 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-29 22:09 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-30 2:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-30 22:26 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 2:20 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 3:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 4:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 6:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:39 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 21:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 21:55 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 22:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31 23:03 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-12-31 16:38 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-01 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-02 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-03 2:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-03 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04 3:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-04 3:29 ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-04 3:41 ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-04 4:54 ` Chetan Pandya
2008-12-30 22:27 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-31 5:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 6:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-31 8:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-31 14:18 ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-31 15:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-12-28 17:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-12-28 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
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2008-12-27 18:16 Eli Zaretskii
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