From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: foreground menu bug Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:18:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20050615.071604.11389732.wl@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119949995 26593 80.91.229.2 (28 Jun 2005 09:13:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 28 11:13:15 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnC8f-0003Pd-0P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:12:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnCGT-0003Za-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 05:20:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DnBWD-0002yf-I1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:32:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DnBW7-0002y0-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnBUj-0002f7-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1DnBQU-0004LG-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:26:39 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DnBDf-0004nG-ES for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:13:23 +0200 Original-Received: from user.ifsab.se ([193.41.170.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:13:23 +0200 Original-Received: from brakjoller by user.ifsab.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:13:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: user.ifsab.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:G+eQHXXifV6FobtvS+PP88rr6Ag= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39769 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39769 "Richard M. Stallman" writes: > Also, what does a disabled menu item tell the user? He might not > understand that it is because font lock is enabled. He might wonder if > he is doing something wrong seeing that menu item disabled. > > This makes no sense. Menu items are disabled when they are not > applicable; users know that. You are right, that did not make much sense. I guess what I meant was that when the user sees a disabled menu item, he does not necessarily understand *why* it is disabled and how to enable it (in this case disable font lock). I suggest documenting this in some place so that he can find out why it is disabled and how to enable it. > Assuming the user notices that we disabled the menu item, your fix > might work. What about users who use M-x apropos or similar to find > commands and then used enter the commands with M-x, how would they > know that this comment is currently "disabled", or not meant to be > used? > > It might be a good idea to do that in addition. What do you think > of this patch? > > *** facemenu.el 27 Jun 2005 16:24:59 -0400 1.79 > --- facemenu.el 27 Jun 2005 22:24:24 -0400 > ... I think it looks good. That message would have helped me.