From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs MUAs with working smtp authentication? Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:43:28 +0100 Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne Message-ID: References: <1156912134.588551.151490@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157114428 26521 80.91.229.2 (1 Sep 2006 12:40:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 01 14:40:27 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJ8Jq-0001vp-EM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:40:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJ8Jp-0007qK-VE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:40:22 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!newsfeed.esat.net!feeder.news.heanet.ie!feed4.jnfs.ja.net!feed2.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!news.ncl.ac.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dinley.ncl.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: ucsnew1.ncl.ac.uk 1157111008 20881 128.240.150.78 (1 Sep 2006 11:43:28 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@newcastle.ac.uk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:43:28 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MQN2f3qKe9h6bxl9pxur8FpvVS0= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:141482 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:37104 Archived-At: >>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Phillip Lord Date: Thu, 31 >> Aug 2006 12:11:53 +0100 >> >> First, the protocol. SMTP uses tls for encryption. Eli> The OP didn't mention encryption. If he did, I would have Eli> understood the difficulties. But he only mentioned Eli> authentication, which I use on my system without any Eli> significant problems. I am reading between the lines. There are many forms of authentication, many of which smtpmail supports. In my experience, however, the move toward secure channels to SMTP servers is gathering pace -- the only surprise for me is that it took so long. So, I suspect that the OP was talking about SSL/TLS. But he may not have been. Eli> Same here: anything that is unclear in the docs is a bug that Eli> should be fixed. Reporting this on emacs-devel will cause the Eli> maintainer DTRT. Yes, you are right. I should have just done this. >> Finally, it doesn't seem to work on windows. I spent three hours >> with a debugger a couple of days ago -- I figured this was the >> only way to see if I had the configuration right. It appears that >> starttls.el uses Unix specific process handling, so won't work >> with NTEmacs. Eli> I think you are right, but I don't use the TLS encryption in my Eli> setup. I have found a hack to fix this now (which isn't pretty!). I'll try it out in a few days time. Cheers Phil -- Phillip Lord, Phone: +44 (0) 191 222 7827 Lecturer in Bioinformatics, Email: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk School of Computing Science, http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/phillip.lord Newcastle University, Claremont Tower, Room 909 NE1 7RU