From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:18:59 +0300 Message-ID: References: <0ded5ecd-f5f6-4a8e-9d19-f61bf0401022@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <86hcad9ar4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <927b0c4a-3de2-4be5-b86a-7ffacc4d718e@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <88821130-f989-49ac-b8b1-e3cb2f5c5271@1g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <86r6993m9f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <218dfb54-c3b0-4887-a305-a8ae984a2f2b@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217575201 5060 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 07:20:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:20:01 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 09:20:50 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOowS-0006Sd-4W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:20:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54971 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOovX-0005wC-DT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:19:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOoui-0005XS-Iu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOouh-0005Wj-Nf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37332 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOouh-0005Wc-Hd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il ([84.95.2.4]:25922) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOouh-0008Oe-If for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.228.238]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K4W009GHUZUZDY3@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:19:07 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <218dfb54-c3b0-4887-a305-a8ae984a2f2b@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:56110 Archived-At: > From: Xah > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:34:16 -0700 (PDT) > > On Jul 31, 12:07 pm, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:20:35 -0700 (PDT)Xah wrote: > > > > >> In that case I suggest you start by making your change suggestion > > >> through the proper channels, not in this newsgroup. I don't feel like > > >> explaining to you basic facts about man-hours, volunteer labor, and the > > >> hundreds of thousands of Emacs users that would deal with that change. > > >> Again, I'm not being rude, just unwilling to spend my time explaining > > >> all this when you don't appear to have any experience writing manuals, > > >> software, or doing user support. > > > > X> Can you keep to topic instead giving me extraneous advice? > > > > Above I listed the things I don't want to explain to you (but, with a > > little brain activity, you could understand for yourself) that make your > > 4 man-hours estimate to implement your proposed change extremely > > unrealistic. This is very much on-topic. It's frustrating that you > > simply ignore reasonable answers when they don't suit you. > > One thing about argument, especially among newsgroup tech geekers, is > that reasoning and critical thinking is wanting, but lots huff and > puff and sneer. In this thread, i think Eli Zaretskii took the Gold > for huffy-puffy. Look who's talking. Your technique of taking something Ted wrote and saying that I'm responsible for that in some way of course sets a fine example of civilized argument about technical issues. It's in no way an example of huffy-puffy, no sir! I guess this means you still didn't recover from the fact that you had no real arguments to beat mine. I forgive you.