From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general Subject: Re: Bug#374513: emacs-snapshot: Info dir hidden words obscure versions Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:35:41 +0300 Message-ID: <uac892b1u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <E1FsL5x-0004bb-4e@jidanni1> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1150745831 14314 80.91.229.2 (19 Jun 2006 19:37:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: submit@bugs.debian.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org, debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 19 21:37:06 2006 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FsPYV-0006EJ-0x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:37:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FsPYU-0005rK-H5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FsPYQ-0005nY-Aq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:36:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FsPYO-0005jN-Ff for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:36:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FsPYO-0005j8-8n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:36:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.17] (helo=gandalf.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FsPik-0001z3-Mt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:47:38 -0400 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il (nitzan.inter.net.il [192.114.186.20]) by gandalf.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.1-GA) with ESMTP id IYF03512; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:35:43 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-142-209.inter.net.il [80.230.142.209]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id DUN12393 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:35:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org>, 374513@bugs.debian.org In-reply-to: <E1FsL5x-0004bb-4e@jidanni1> (message from Dan Jacobson on Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:51:17 +0800) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:15158 gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general:106055 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/15158> > From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:51:17 +0800 > > Gentlemen, (here on Debian, emacs-version "22.0.50.1") do C-h i M-x occur gnus: > 4 matches for "gnus" in buffer: *info* > 242:* Gnus: (emacs-21/gnus). The newsreader Gnus. > 247: goes with Gnus. > 302:* Gnus: (emacs-snapshot/gnus). The newsreader Gnus. > 307: goes with Gnus. > But that exposes hidden words. What the user actually sees in the *info* > buffer is > > * Gnus: The newsreader Gnus. > * Gnus: The newsreader Gnus. > > I.e., two identical items. This is a bug in the DIR file(s) distributed by Debian: it is not allowed to have two or more menu items whose labels (the part between the * and the first colon) are identical. The Info format disallows that, and Info readers generally cannot cope with that. > And further again, though there are two gnuses, when we hit m gnus tab, we get > Menu item: Gnus [Sole completion] That's one of the symptoms of the fact that two such entries cannot live together. I urge the Debian maintainers to fix that. > Furthermore, when one hits C-h m, one sees no mention of "Narrow" > mode, even though it is in the modeline. That's because Narrow is not a minor mode. > P.S., We even try > `C-x n w' > Widen to make the entire buffer accessible again (`widen'). > And indeed the word "Narrow" dissappears from the modeline. However > the hidden text is still hidden. The text is hidden by Emacs display magic, not by narrowing.