From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 22 branch created. Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:48:34 +0300 Message-ID: References: <871wi9jw37.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <462E7B94.3000008@gnu.org> <462F0A07.50104@gnu.org> <864pn4an8j.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <86zm4w97du.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070425195026.GA19472@printf.se> <20070427133832.22F374DD5F@rocksteady.printf.se> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177681759 19410 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2007 13:49:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Henrik Enberg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 15:49:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HhQov-0006oT-Ab for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:49:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhQul-00058E-P9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:55:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhQuJ-0004a8-L8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:54:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HhQuG-0004Vl-Tc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:54:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhQuG-0004Vb-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HhQoO-0003aV-Dr; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:48:36 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-36-220.inter.net.il [80.230.36.220]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id HSC61559 (AUTH halo1); Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:48:36 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20070427133832.22F374DD5F@rocksteady.printf.se> (message from Henrik Enberg on Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:38:32 +0200 (CEST)) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70255 Archived-At: > From: Henrik Enberg > CC: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:38:32 +0200 (CEST) > > > > > * Gnus BABYL support will break. Since the new Rmail no longer knows > > how to decode BABYL, neither will Gnus. This is unfortunate, but > > more or less unavoidable, given the way Rmail is designed. > > > > Gnus should covert Babyl files into mailbox files. (So should Rmail, > > I guess.) The unrmail command, plus the old code for reading Babyl files, > > ought to suffice for this. > > This is what the mbox branch does. When you read in a file, it will > check the format, and if is BABYL, it automatically converts it to > mailbox with unrmail. It should be pretty easy for Gnus to do something > similar. Then I think there's no real issue with BABYL support in this branch. The only other controversy seems to be the encoding stuff. I don't really understand Richard's objections to what people suggested (i.e., store the messages undecoded). I think this is the way to go; it was discussed several times in the past, and the conclusion was always the same: that decoding should happen at display time.