Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Teemu Likonen]

Samuel Wales (2008-12-18 14:09 -0700) wrote:

> I've tried to bind c-~ and c-` using incantations including "\C-~",
> [(control ...)], and simply doing M-x local-set-key and pasting the
> rather cryptic (local-set-key (quote [67108960]) (quote ignore)).
>
> That last trick has always worked to bind things I couldn't figure out
> how to bind, but not this time.

Perhaps "kbd" function helps? (kbd "C-`") returns [67108960] so you
could do:

    (global-set-key (kbd "C-`") 'do-this)
    (global-set-key (kbd "C-~") 'do-that)

Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Samuel Wales]

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 15:01, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote:
> Perhaps "kbd" function helps? (kbd "C-`") returns [67108960] so you
> could do:
>
>    (global-set-key (kbd "C-`") 'do-this)
>    (global-set-key (kbd "C-~") 'do-that)
>

That works.  Thank you.

The only remaining issue is C-F1, but that is probably an OS thing,
since emacs doesn't recognize it.

Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Phil Carmody]

"Samuel Wales" <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 15:01, Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> wrote:
>> Perhaps "kbd" function helps? (kbd "C-`") returns [67108960] so you
>> could do:
>>
>>    (global-set-key (kbd "C-`") 'do-this)
>>    (global-set-key (kbd "C-~") 'do-that)
>
> That works.  Thank you.
>
> The only remaining issue is C-F1, but that is probably an OS thing,
> since emacs doesn't recognize it.

What does C-h k say when, and view-lossage say after, you press it?
It's <C-f1> in the native emacs here, but ``ESC [ 1 1 ^'' via a
screen session in a terminal, and simply not a recognised keypress
at all from the console. For this reason, you might want to not 
rely on binding any function to such a key if you're ever likely 
to change environment.

Of course, if you look at the traditional meaning of the 'control'
modifier, it only makes sense for a-z and a handful of other characters.
That emacs is able to capture keyboard events and recognise combinations
which have no intrinsic meaning outside emacs is nice when you can always
rely on it, but an annoyance when you're suddently placed at a console
which doesn't provide emacs the same level of control.

Phil
-- 
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wrong word ... and it typed the right one. It was actually just 
detecting a sound and printing the expected word! -- pbhj on /.

Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Samuel Wales]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 02:27, Phil Carmody
<thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Samuel Wales" <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>> The only remaining issue is C-F1, but that is probably an OS thing,
>> since emacs doesn't recognize it.
>
> What does C-h k say when, and view-lossage say after, you press it?

The key is not recognized by emacs.

Not intending to use it for purposes where I would rely on it on a
console, of course.

This isn't a huge problem.

Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Joe Casadonte]

On WinXP I use:

	 (global-set-key [C-~] 'foo-bar)
	 (global-set-key [C-M-~] 'baz)

Maybe it will work for you, too?

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Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Kevin Rodgers]

Joe Casadonte wrote:
> On WinXP I use:
> 
> 	 (global-set-key [C-~] 'foo-bar)
> 	 (global-set-key [C-M-~] 'baz)
> 
> Maybe it will work for you, too?

That shouldn't work for anyone, since ~ is not a function key.  I think
you meant to write:

(global-set-key [?\C-~] 'foo-bar)
(global-set-key [?\C-\M-~] 'baz)

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Re: how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Joe Casadonte]

On 20 Dec 2008, Kevin Rodgers wrote:

> Joe Casadonte wrote:
>> On WinXP I use:
>>
>> 	 (global-set-key [C-~] 'foo-bar)
>> 	 (global-set-key [C-M-~] 'baz)
>>
>> Maybe it will work for you, too?
>
> That shouldn't work for anyone, since ~ is not a function key.  I
> think you meant to write:

And yet it works, on 22.2.1 and 21.x on Win2k and WinXP.  I guess I
got lucky.  And I just tried it on 22.1.1 on Ubuntu and it works, too.

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how to bind c-~ or c-` ?

[Samuel Wales]

I've tried to bind c-~ and c-` using incantations including "\C-~",
[(control ...)], and simply doing M-x local-set-key and pasting the
rather cryptic (local-set-key (quote [67108960]) (quote ignore)).

That last trick has always worked to bind things I couldn't figure out
how to bind, but not this time.

Carbon Emacs.  22.1.

Thanks.