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From: Byung-Hee HWANG <bh@izb.knu.ac.kr>
To: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Reading Emacs Tutorials
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:32:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u8wn6u4pl.fsf@izb.knu.ac.kr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877i2qg5tj.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Sun\, 15 Mar 2009 17\:32\:24 +0200")

Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> writes:

> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:18:59 +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG <bh@izb.knu.ac.kr> wrote:
>> Because naturally i'm not patient, i cannot read the tutorials for
>> long time on anchor to chair. Is there somebody like me? If so, how do
>> you become to the power user on Emacs? Without reading Emacs tutorials
>> or Emacs howto.
>>
>> Nevetheless, i cannot give up Emacs study. Really i like Emacs for
>> now. Can you please help me about that? Without fall behind, i wish to
>> stand up line of power users after about 3 months. Please comments!
>
> I just took my own pace and rhythm.  Emacs is a huge program, so it is
> pretty normal to feel overwhelmed by its size and complexity.  I think
> it is safe to assume that nobody can learn _everything_ about Emacs in
> less than 3 months, but do not let this deter you from trying to use
> Emacs and learn more about it.
>
> You can start with small editing tasks, i.e. by setting Emacs as your
> editor for email messages.  I initially had my Emacs configured as the
> editor for mutt(1).  Starting a new Emacs instance for every email
> message seemed a bit slowish, but it also provided me with a safe-belt:
> when I did something stupid inside Emacs, I could save the message or
> kill the buffer, and restart the email editor.  This way I wouldn't feel
> afraid to try new things and commands.
>
> Using Emacs for editing my email messages was a pretty big step, because
> I usually post 10-50 new messages every day and I spend a fair amount of
> time inside my mail reader.  But `forcing' myself to use Emacs for this
> sort of work made me realize that I needed to learn more things about
> the editor, to become more effective in my email editing tasks.  So I
> did.
>
> Every time I learned of a new Emacs trick, I tried to apply it to my
> everyday email editing sessions.  I didn't read the _entire_ Emacs
> tutorial in one day.  I didn't read the entire manual in one day either.
> But I did read parts of the tutorial and the manual very often.  I spent
> small chunks of time, and let them accumulate over time to what must be
> now several hundred of hours of manual reading.
>
> The important thing to realize is that you don't have to read the
> *entire* manual in one go.  Learn how to look things up in the index of
> the manual, become acquainted with `info-mode' and how to navigate the
> manual by using keys you are familiar with, and let experience build up
> over time.
>
> HTH,
> Giorgos

Giorgos, i saw you at FreeBSD Project's mailing lists, nice to meet you!
Carefully i read your message from mail header (by t) to last
signature. Really you would be my role model as an Emacs user. Because i
like your posting style (bottom posting) and i like your posting route
(via newsgroup) and you are using BSD-like UNIX which is my favorite OS
currently. 

Your words give me some courage i can study Emacs over a boundary of
time continually. After read your message, i decided to start Emacs
study from handling Gnus itself. Thank you so much, indeed.
  
Sincerely,
  
-- 
Byung-Hee HWANG, KNU 
∑ WWW: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/




  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-15 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3161.1237105343.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-03-15 15:32 ` [OT] Reading Emacs Tutorials Giorgos Keramidas
2009-03-15 16:32   ` Byung-Hee HWANG [this message]
2009-03-15 18:14     ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-03-15 17:25   ` prad
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3247.1237137969.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-03-15 18:16     ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-03-15 20:36       ` prad
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3264.1237149391.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-03-15 21:30         ` News server access from Gnus [was: Re: [OT] Reading Emacs Tutorials] Giorgos Keramidas
2009-03-15 22:39           ` prad
2009-03-16  6:21           ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-03-18  3:47           ` prad
2009-03-18 14:10             ` News server access from Gnus Sean Sieger
2009-03-18 15:35             ` Michael Ekstrand
     [not found]             ` <mailman.3499.1237385434.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-03-22  7:53               ` prad
2009-03-23 13:23                 ` Sean Sieger
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.3822.1237814642.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-03-25  5:06                   ` prad
2009-03-25 12:39                     ` Sean Sieger
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.3954.1237984780.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-04-05  4:26                       ` prad
2009-03-14  3:18 [OT] Reading Emacs Tutorials Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-03-14  9:58 ` Peter Dyballa
2009-03-14 14:07 ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-03-14 21:21   ` Ronnie Collinson
2009-03-14 21:35     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-15  6:42       ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-03-15 19:43         ` Lennart Borgman
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3260.1237146211.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-03-15 23:40           ` B. T. Raven
2009-03-15 23:09             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-03-15 10:07       ` Tassilo Horn
2009-03-16 10:13 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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