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> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: 20 May 2004 09:25:23 +0200
> 
> > So there is a more general question: why not extend Customize
> > for a guided tour through options?
> 
> Because it does not lend itself to writing?  For Texinfo, we have
> modes that facilitate getting a nice, human-manageable document
> source.  We don't have that for some weird stuff of Lisp functions.

Do we really need an elaborate authoring support in this case?  A tool
such as the one being discussed needs mostly small chinks of plain
text interspersed with hyperlinks, something for which Customize (and
indeed even Help functions) already have the necessary infrastructure,
or at least large parts of it.

I'm probably missing something (since both Lars and Per would have
already thought about that), but what?