From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Building Emacs-cvs on Cygwin Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:17:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8564e7wf13.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85k62nun5o.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161937130 8535 80.91.229.2 (27 Oct 2006 08:18:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 27 10:18:48 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdMv7-0001CV-5D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:18:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdMv5-0003Vh-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:18:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GdMud-0003RW-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GdMub-0003NO-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:17:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GdMub-0003Mz-0l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.73] (helo=heller.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GdMuY-0001Qe-EX; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-229-224-166.inter.net.il [84.229.224.166]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id AVI02325 (AUTH halo1); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:17:52 +0200 (IST) Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <85k62nun5o.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:12:03 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:61223 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: David Kastrup > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:12:03 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > What exactly is missing that makes you say this? You didn't answer that. > > A bare-bones Linux kernel > > Which neither Richard nor I was talking about. Neither was I, sorry for the confusing wording. I later used a more accurate (but much longer) term "GNU/Linux with all the GNU commands removed". > But the MS Windows versions of even those primitive commands are much > less useful, particular in scripts, than the GNU equivalents. When did you last looked at those commands? They are much more powerful since at least 6 years ago. If you have examples of the functionality you think is missing, let's hear them. > > ``Useful'' is in the eyes of the beholder. ``Usable'' is a more > > relevant issue: stripped of all GNU programs, a Linux-based system > > is simply unusable, IMO. > > So what? Richard was not talking about just a kernel, I was not > talking about just a kernel. > > What is your fixation with a bare Linux kernel? There is none. I didn't even use that term in the part to which you were responding here.