From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jody M. Klymak" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Cool and Useful LISP for the .emacs file Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 09:45:31 -0800 Organization: Oregon State University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068229961 26680 80.91.224.253 (7 Nov 2003 18:32:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 19:32:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AIBPT-0003mq-00 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:32:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AIC3y-0004U9-DL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:14:30 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone.bc.net!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!msc1.onvoy!onvoy.com!lenny.tc.umn.edu!news.oregonstate.edu!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: pender.oce.orst.edu Original-X-Trace: news.oregonstate.edu 1068227008 11406 128.193.65.180 (7 Nov 2003 17:43:28 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@orst.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:43:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: )UPEGs@hZ!Z_j0LNZv0Uu\k List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13910 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13910 Hi Dan, Dan Anderson writes: [snip much good advice...] > Learning LISP is not hard... Heh, heh. Compared to what? Assembly code? I personally find lisp quite difficult. The opportunities to code in it are few and far enough between, and the syntax so different from any other modern language, that I have a one-day overhead just to spool up to the point where I can do even the simplest thing. And thus the coding opportunities get even fewer and further between, and the cycle spirals to the point where I am dependent on the good nature of package maintainers to tweak what I want. This must limit the base of emacs coders. Despite this, of course, there are many wonderful packages written for emacs. It causes me to wonder if this is despite lisp or in some way because of it. Cheers, Jody