From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian Elmegaard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: 20 Mar 2005 13:59:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <874qf7zlk5.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111324952 551 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 13:22:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 14:22:31 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD0Nr-0005Fw-4f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:22:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD0ek-000147-PW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:39:50 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!news.net.uni-c.dk!sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 24 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.166.154.230 Original-X-Trace: DXC=D7<4eQ8:VG6@g6i]76MRQ6YSB=nbEKnk; 0iD:o5Hn]; :B5AQgEXWLc=eWR8?[FEXN6G`OJE8Gd139IUWY:IjIWi1 Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129476 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25031 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25031 Pascal Bourguignon writes: > 2- Since you can customize emacs, why don't you write the > ms-window-newbie-user-minor-mode yourself? I, at least, have been considering this as a option. > And while you're at it, > write a macintosh-newbie-user-minor-mode and > an amiga-newbie-user-minor-mode and etc... On these systems, the > "standard" keys are not what you think! How are emacs users distributed between systems? > I meant that the best way to leave the newbie state is to start > learning and using the new tool instead of trying to bind it to make > it look like the old tool. People have to learn to roll, sit, crawl, and stand before they can walk. -- Brian (remove the sport for mail) http://www.et.dtu.dk/staff/be/be.html