From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian Elmegaard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: 21 Mar 2005 09:23:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <874qf7zlk5.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <87mzszxlc1.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <01c52d06$Blat.v2.4$afb8ba60@zahav.net.il> <16957.15707.79279.253809@mail.eng.it> <423D5ED6.5000202@yahoo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111393377 22694 80.91.229.2 (21 Mar 2005 08:22:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 21 09:22:57 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDIBU-0004ac-2h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:22:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDISX-0004nn-Kb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:40:25 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!uninett.no!news.net.uni-c.dk!sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 14 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.166.154.230 Original-X-Trace: DXC=V\OGfTd:; Ac7_WibYj Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:129512 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25064 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25064 Joe Bush writes: > That said, I think the whole 'user-friendly' notion is over-rated, and > misses the point. I agree, 'user-friendly' means 'eyecandy' and that you can do something just by clicking somewhere. 'User-friendly' for newbies and for experienced users are more less the opposite, at least the way software is today. -- Brian (remove the sport for mail) http://www.et.dtu.dk/staff/be/be.html