From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Fineman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: special keyboard, ctrl below spacebar Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:47:40 GMT Message-ID: References: <1162858694.499528.250520@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <87u01behhl.fsf@trick.ulm.malte.spiess> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162953738 27194 80.91.229.2 (8 Nov 2006 02:42:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 02:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 08 03:42:08 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdNz-000198-AW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:41:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhdNy-0006iF-SQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:54 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.28.186.77.MISMATCH!hwmnpeer03.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-media.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!trndny06.POSTED!099a252d!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Sf05Zvz8slAl56WVWyKd8pw22uc= Original-Lines: 35 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.162.238.190 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net Original-X-Trace: trndny06 1162950460 68.162.238.190 (Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:47:40 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:47:40 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:142959 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38577 Archived-At: Malte Spiess writes: > "Florian Kaufmann" writes: >> Since I moved Ctrl to Caps Lock on my 'US windows' keyboard, I am >> wondering how I still could improve accessibility to modifier keys >> as ctrl, meta, shift (, hyper, super). I thought it would be great >> to have 2 of these left and right to the middle below the space >> bar. With the left pinkie and the two thumbs the modifiers would be >> reachable very easy, and while pressing any of these modifiers you >> still could reach easily almost any other key with the other >> fingers. A similar idea would also be to make the space bar much >> shorter, and place the two new keys at the side of the now shorter >> space bar. The new keys would be reachable more easily than alt is >> now beside the long space bar. Now I wonder if such keyboards >> already exist, or if somebody knows how I could alter an existing >> keyboard and make the two additional keys myself. I googled a bit, >> but didn't found anything. Any ideas? > > I use a Contoured keyboard by Kinesis: > http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/ So do I. It puts Ctrl & Alt handy to the thumbs, and they are next to each other, so you can even do Ctrl-Alt with one thumb. The space key is no longer a bar, but is where the right thumb lives. However, it is absurdly expensive -- at a guess, because it is marketed as a remedy for carpal tunnel syndrome, so it gets paid for largely out of insurance. -- --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net ||: If you can't get the blues off your mind, get your mind off :|| ||: the blues. :||