From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:48:33 +0300 Message-ID: References: <6sps3z32ap.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tztbcue9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lkemmrg4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <18033.64249.816850.550250@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <85ejkcq32v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181990930 27197 80.91.229.12 (16 Jun 2007 10:48:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 16 12:48:48 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HzVpl-0002qd-1T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:48:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzVpk-0006WM-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:48:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzVph-0006WG-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:48:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzVpf-0006W3-3Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:48:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzVpe-0006W0-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:48:38 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HzVpb-0004SV-Qw; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 06:48:36 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-245-228.inter.net.il [83.130.245.228]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id ICF29662 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:48:31 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <85ejkcq32v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:12:56 +0200) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73056 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:12:56 +0200 > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org, Nick Roberts , > emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, cyd@stupidchicken.com > > It just appears quite pointless to be driving with the handbrake on > after we passed the point of the release. I don't necessarily agree with Richard's decision, but can you explain why should it be a drag on the development? If someone wants to make far-reaching changes, they could always switch to the Unicode branch and make them there, can't they? Also, please note that it was Ken'ichi who asked not to make changes on the trunk that would make it harder to merge the Unicode branch; if you want to be fair, why don't you lobby Ken'ichi as hard as you lobby Richard? > The current plan, however, seems to be "let's achieve as little as > possible over as long as possible". That's just being vicious, David. There are ways to say what you want without assuming malicious intent such as this, which Richard clearly cannot have.