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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:48:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u4pl8i39a.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85ejkcq32v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:12:56 +0200)

> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:12:56 +0200
> Cc: rgm@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org, Nick Roberts <nickrob@snap.net.nz>,
> 	emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, cyd@stupidchicken.com
> 
> It just appears quite pointless to be driving with the handbrake on
> after we passed the point of the release.

I don't necessarily agree with Richard's decision, but can you explain
why should it be a drag on the development?  If someone wants to make
far-reaching changes, they could always switch to the Unicode branch
and make them there, can't they?

Also, please note that it was Ken'ichi who asked not to make changes
on the trunk that would make it harder to merge the Unicode branch;
if you want to be fair, why don't you lobby Ken'ichi as hard as you
lobby Richard?

> The current plan, however, seems to be "let's achieve as little as
> possible over as long as possible".

That's just being vicious, David.  There are ways to say what you want
without assuming malicious intent such as this, which Richard clearly
cannot have.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-16 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-13 18:41 Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Reiner Steib
2007-06-13 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 21:47   ` Reiner Steib
2007-06-13 22:21     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 22:41       ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-13 23:22         ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-14  6:31           ` Emacs 23 development policy (was: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories) Reiner Steib
2007-06-14  7:25             ` David Reitter
2007-06-14 13:42               ` Adrian Robert
2007-06-14 19:56                 ` Emacs 23 development policy Stefan Monnier
2007-06-14 16:20           ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 16:27             ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-15  0:57               ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-15  2:03                 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-15  3:14                   ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-15  2:35                 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-15 19:22                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 21:48                     ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-16 18:50                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 19:23                         ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-16 19:28                           ` David Kastrup
2007-06-17  8:54                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-17 19:47                               ` David Kastrup
2007-06-17  8:54                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18  1:36                             ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-18 21:30                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-19  5:01                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-19  5:31                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-19 22:26                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-20 13:18                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-20 17:36                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 22:12                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 10:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-06-16 12:09                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 13:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 13:13                             ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 13:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 14:05                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 16:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 17:38                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 18:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-16 13:55                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2007-06-16 14:16                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-17 23:07                             ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-18  3:10                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-18  5:18                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-18  6:01                                   ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-18 19:12                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-18 21:12                                       ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-19 22:25                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18 19:11                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-18 21:30                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18  6:53                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-18  7:24                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-06-18  8:34                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-18  8:50                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-06-18 19:23                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19  0:53                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-19  5:17                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19  5:37                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-19  6:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-19 17:53                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-06-19  5:21                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-06-19  2:19                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-19  5:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-23  8:13                                   ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-06-16 18:50                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-16 14:22                     ` Proposal for a 22.2/trunk development model (was: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-16 14:37                       ` Proposal for a 22.2/trunk development model David Kastrup
2007-06-16 16:01                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-16 16:41                           ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 17:05                             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-07-01 20:40                       ` Proposal for a 22.2/trunk development model (was: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories) Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 19:21               ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 16:48             ` Jay Belanger
2007-06-17 13:47     ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-09  2:22       ` Miles Bader
2007-07-09 17:21         ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-10 10:33           ` Miles Bader
2007-07-10 12:19             ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-10 15:51               ` Leo
2007-07-10 20:05                 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-16  2:58                   ` [bug] PGG shows ?? when prompt for passphrase Leo
2006-12-17  1:30                     ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-17  2:18                       ` Leo
2006-12-17  3:28                         ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-17  4:18                           ` Leo
2006-12-17  4:28                             ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-17  5:27                               ` Leo
2006-12-18  1:12                               ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-18  1:34                                 ` Daiki Ueno
     [not found]                                   ` <E1GwhJI-0003jz-GI@fencepost.gnu.org>
2006-12-19 23:55                                     ` Daiki Ueno
     [not found]                           ` <E1Gw733-00050z-Ic@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                             ` <c371ac3b-6629-4e1a-a023-92982698664b@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                               ` <6662a3b9-1148-4aa0-bd2d-29a67be38d76@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                                 ` <E1Gx14z-0000Zc-Lm@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                   ` <5a520e06-4ee3-4c4f-9345-d49a666516f9@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                                     ` <E1GyDFo-00006s-IW@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                       ` <7f60c21d-2f66-4c4b-9abb-e377ca24a153@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                                         ` <fe674575-f87f-46e4-8287-6481b3fc6f03@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                                           ` <E1Gz20z-0003hC-Nb@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <844cd50a-ec18-4b09-a057-35bdfb5173fd@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                                               ` <E1GzP1P-0006JH-Lb@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <8ba25607-9381-4a27-ae53-8b0f3ccc3ac1@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                                                   ` <E1Gzg8G-0002bZ-JG@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                     ` <366fa6ab-42a0-4df5-a17f-4ac3d1744d78@well-done.deisui.org>
     [not found]                                                       ` <E1H0Jui-0005YH-HB@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                         ` <ec5e0f1b-45c5-4ed5-ae1c-766fa33e3ee0@well-done.deisui.org>
2006-12-30 18:24                                                           ` pgg-encrypt is a pain in the neck Richard Stallman
2006-12-30 19:41                                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2006-12-31  1:02                                                               ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-31 12:27                                                                 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-12-31 14:07                                                                   ` Reiner Steib
2006-12-31 14:38                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-31 22:13                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-31  1:47                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-31 12:54                                                                 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-12-31 14:13                                                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2006-12-31 22:13                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-02  0:28                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2007-01-02 16:37                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-02 19:53                                                                         ` Reiner Steib
2006-12-31 22:13                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-01-02 18:43                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-12-31  1:46                                                           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                                       ` <E1H0Juj-0005YY-RU@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-07-10 22:47                                                         ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Daiki Ueno
2007-07-10 22:54                                                           ` Miles Bader
2007-07-11  0:07                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-11 21:03                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-10 21:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-11  2:25                     ` Miles Bader
2007-07-11 21:03                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-11  3:05                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-11  3:43                   ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-11  9:38                     ` Sascha Wilde
2007-07-11 10:22                       ` Daiki Ueno
2007-07-11 21:04                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-14  8:38 ` Miles Bader
     [not found] <E1Ibp6i-0001vw-LM@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <b4m7im7spqn.fsf@jpl.org>
2007-10-01 17:40   ` [mail.list.steel.mental@gmail.com: chinese group names can not displayed properly in *Complation* buffer] Richard Stallman
2007-10-01 18:27     ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories (was: [mail.list.steel.mental@gmail.com: chinese group names can not displayed properly in *Complation* buffer]) Reiner Steib
2007-10-02  3:32       ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-02  7:16         ` Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories Reiner Steib
2007-10-02 13:35           ` Daiki Ueno
2007-10-02 21:59             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-03 11:09               ` Daiki Ueno
2007-10-03 11:29                 ` Leo
2007-10-03 13:41                   ` Reiner Steib
2007-10-03 14:10                     ` Leo
2007-10-04  2:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-16 21:10               ` Reiner Steib
2007-10-16 21:19                 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-02 21:59           ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-16 20:58             ` Reiner Steib

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