From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 13:04:37 +0300 Message-ID: References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> <86zlr1qjq3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210241316 25562 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 10:08:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, jasonr@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 12:09:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ju321-0000o3-J3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 12:07:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52924 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju31J-00006t-EG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:06:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju319-00005H-3s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:06:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju318-0008WH-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:06:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41617 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju318-0008Vz-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:06:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]:37263) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju30p-0002nj-M9; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([83.130.255.47]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K0J00I1RN7KVPF0@i-mtaout7.012.net.il>; Thu, 08 May 2008 12:47:45 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96753 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Cc: Jason Rumney , lekktu@gmail.com, > Eli Zaretskii , > Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 18:06:45 +0900 > > David Kastrup writes: > > It would be worthwhile to start mapping Emacs usually only after .emacs > > has been processed and/or the command line processed. That way you can > > select fonts, geometry, toolbar or not and so on in .emacs and have > > emacs start right away without resizing or flicker. > > I would _love_ it if Emacs did this, but IIRC, Gerd tried that, and got > shot down because it was incompatible with wacky code in people's .emacs > files. Yes, this was a source of considerable pain during Emacs 21.1 development, and is the reason for the horrible jumps through the hoops with frame-notice-user-settings and its ilk.