From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:27:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4544"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 19:28:33 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLhR-000153-8O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:28:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47622 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLhQ-0002Py-AS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:28:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLgn-0001rg-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:57678) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBLgl-0000wJ-Ll for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 13:27:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:09:08 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=140.211.166.183; envelope-from=ulm@gentoo.org; helo=smtp.gentoo.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/27 13:27:49 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -68 X-Spam_score: -6.9 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254314 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Lars Ljung proposed to change frame-title-format to something more > modern and similar to Firefox, gvim, Gimp, LibreOffice, etc.: > https://debbugs.gnu.org/41147 > We currently have: > (setq frame-title-format > '(multiple-frames "%b" > ("" invocation-name "@" system-name))) > The suggestion is to change it to: > (setq frame-title-format "%b - GNU Emacs") > Alternatively, I think one could also reasonably choose: > (setq frame-title-format > '(multiple-frames "%b" > ("%b - GNU Emacs"))) > I personally think it makes sense to just do what other modern software > does here, but Eli felt that we need more opinions before making any > changes. So please let us know if you have any thoughts. One point about %b which I think hasn't been raised yet. When selecting another window (even if in the same frame), the frame title will change. In addition, when using a desktop environment's panel (for example, xfce4-panel) with "window buttons", there will be some visual activity outside of the Emacs frame as well. Not sure if that could be distracting.