From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:47:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <u3bm34ll8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89DEE8B2-EA6A-4347-A9AB-D1B99C58E725@gmail.com> (message from David Reitter on Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:29:35 +0000)
> From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:29:35 +0000
>
> describe-bindings separates the different groups with ^L even though
> the text that is output is intended to be human-readable.
The ^L is there so that one could use forward-page to quickly move to
the next group.
> Isn't there a nicer way the groups can be separated?
We could use overlays to display the ^L as something more visually
appealing, while leaving ^L in the buffer.
> I also get a long list with latin key characters that are bound to
> encoded-kbd-self-insert-ccl.
I think this is a bug.
> As a novice user when trying out the describe-bindings function, I
> would see that there is a lot of uninteresting technical stuff at the
> beginning
Please be more specific: what uninteresting technical stuff is there
at the beginning that you want to remove?
> Lastly, I was wondering if one could use a better name for the menu
> item.
> "List Key Bindings" is of course perfectly correct from an Emacs
> terminology point of view. But as a new user, I would be looking for
> something like "Keyboard Functions" or "Keyboard Shortcuts" or so,
> not for "Bindings".
We could modify the help echo string to mention "shortcuts". I don't
think the name of the menu item itself should change, since this is
Emacs terminology, and newbies need to learn it as fast as possible.
> The Help menu is really important and useful to newbies. It would be
> very helpful if one could make it easier to understand.
That is the goal, yes. But given the limited real estate in the
menus, we need to compromise.
> --Apple-Mail-17-876036934
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature;
> name=smime.p7s
> Content-Disposition: attachment;
> filename=smime.p7s
Could you please drop this signature stuff? It's very long and thus
annoying. TIA.
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-10 20:29 describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming David Reitter
2005-11-10 21:27 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-10 21:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-11 1:03 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-11 2:55 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-11 9:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-11-11 7:43 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 10:20 ` Henrik Enberg
2005-11-13 20:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-13 22:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-13 23:13 ` David Reitter
2005-11-14 0:10 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-14 0:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-14 4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-14 15:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-15 5:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-19 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-15 3:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-14 4:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-14 17:48 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 18:18 ` Help menu (was: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming) David Reitter
2005-11-15 4:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-15 4:11 ` Help menu Juri Linkov
2005-11-15 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-15 18:07 ` Help menu (was: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming) Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-15 18:19 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-15 18:15 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-16 22:04 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 23:29 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-18 17:00 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-18 17:58 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-18 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 23:26 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-19 23:44 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-19 23:26 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-19 23:44 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-16 22:04 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 10:45 ` describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Jason Rumney
2005-11-11 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 18:02 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 20:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-11 8:47 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-11-11 9:33 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 10:17 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 18:02 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 19:10 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 20:49 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-11 21:16 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 21:26 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-11 22:32 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 22:42 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-11 23:40 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 21:25 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-12 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-12 12:28 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-12 12:58 ` David Reitter
2005-11-12 14:28 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-12 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-12 20:20 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-12 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-12 13:56 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 19:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-13 20:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-11 19:35 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-11 21:01 ` David Reitter
2005-11-12 21:19 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-12 21:41 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-12 21:53 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-12 23:09 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-12 23:23 ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-12 23:35 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-14 4:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 0:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-13 20:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-13 21:16 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-13 21:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-13 23:06 ` David Reitter
2005-11-15 5:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-29 17:11 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-29 18:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-30 4:56 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-30 5:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-30 10:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-30 22:11 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 11:59 ` David Reitter
2005-11-14 14:27 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-15 5:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
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