From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Q on minibuffer-message
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:28:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <u3bjep7ud.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICKEMMDBAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>
> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:10:49 -0800
> Cc:
>
> Someone gives you a command that has maybe 10 or 100 possible calls to
> `minibuffer-message' sprinkled throughout its execution tree. You're going
> to use `defadvice' to try to slice and dice away the message appearances? Or
> you're going to rewrite the command, so that it uses a non-interactive
> helper function or accepts a flag that controls message appearance or tests
> whether it was called interactively?
>
> The original author intended it only as an interactive command, but you see
> that you can use its functionality as is - you just want to inhibit its
> messages.
Are we talking about a well-written, clean function? Or are we
talking about something that shouldn't have seen the light of the day?
I get the impression that I'm thinking mostly about the former, while
you have the latter before your mind's eyes.
If it's a badly written function, then yes, I'd rewrite it, or urge
the author to do so.
> In other words, you are asking for a mechanism to subvert the intent
> of the author of the function which calls `message'.
>
> Yes. It's far from atypical to reuse something in a way that was not
> foreseen by the original author. Probably most reuse fits that description.
A well written code doesn't need to be subverted to be reused.
> In any case, `minibuffer-message-timeout' apparently has no effect
> whatsoever currently: a 2-second delay is apparently hard-coded.
That's a different issue, with a different solution.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-24 4:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-20 19:23 Q on minibuffer-message Drew Adams
2006-01-20 22:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-20 23:08 ` Drew Adams
2006-01-22 17:44 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-22 18:54 ` Drew Adams
2006-01-23 4:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-23 5:11 ` Ian Zimmerman
2006-01-23 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2006-01-23 23:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-24 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2006-01-24 4:28 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2006-01-24 16:46 ` Richard M. Stallman
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2006-01-20 21:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-01-20 23:49 ` Drew Adams
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