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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: storm@cua.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org
Subject: Re: W32 version crashes on C-g
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:38:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u3bhfxtry.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mzfno9e3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:11:48 -0500)

> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>,
> 	  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:11:48 -0500
> 
> This is somewhat off-topic, but a long time ago, I posted on
> gnu.emacs.help that a small tweak to a Makefile allows Emacs to
> compile with the version of make that comes with MingW/MSYS, even in
> the MSYS shell:
> 
>   I get an error when compiling Emacs 21.3 on Windows 2000, using
>   Mingw's gcc.exe and mingw32-make.exe (renamed to make.exe):
> 
>   "./../bin/emacs.exe" -batch --no-init-file --no-site-file --multibyte
>   -l autoload \
>           --eval "(setq find-file-hook nil \
>                   find-file-suppress-same-file-warnings t \
>                   generated-autoload-file \
>                     \"C:/home/emacs/lisp/loaddefs.el\")" \
>           -f batch-update-autoloads "C:/home/emacs/lisp"
>   Wrote c:/home/emacs/lisp/C;c:home.macslisploaddefs.el
>   Loading vc-cvs (source)...
>   Wrote c:/home/emacs/lisp/C;c:home?macslisploaddefs.el
>   Autoloads file c:/home/emacs/lisp/C;c:home.macslisploaddefs.el does
>   not exist
>   make: *** [all] Error -1
> 
>   The problem seems to be that either emacs.exe or cmd (the Windows
>   command shell) munges the ":" character, even when it is enclosed by
>   quotation marks. If I edit the Makefile by hand to eliminate the
>   colon, i.e.,
> 
>                     \"./loaddefs.el\")" \
> 
>   then the compilation succeeds.

This complaint came in a few more times from other users of MSYS.
Further enquiry uncovered the reason: the MSYS runtime would munge
strings which start with "C:" (or "D:" or "E:" etc.) if these were not
the first two characters of a string.  That is, "C:/foo something"
would be left alone, but "(setq foo \"C:/foo\")" would be munged.

You will see that in current CVS, lisp/makefile.w32-in avoids
triggering this MSYS bug, albeit in a way that is different from what
you suggested (because what you suggested would break a build outside
the source tree).

So obviously, once the problems are understood, we do try to solve
them, even if they are due to what I firmly believe to be an MSYS
misfeature.

> > It is clear that people will use whatever tools and shells they want
> > to, and we must do our best to make them work and document it. While
> > singling out one toolset to document might make things easier for
> > newcomers, it will also offend a large number of zealots who prefer
> > some other toolset.
> 
> We can probably live with a bit of offense.

I don't think a request to have simpler instructions is a good reason
to stop catering to a significant portion of users.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-18 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-17 10:41 W32 version crashes on C-g Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 11:46 ` Eric Lilja
2006-03-17 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-17 12:28   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 12:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 14:04   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 14:20     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 14:49       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-17 16:07         ` Jason Rumney
2006-03-17 16:08         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18  1:13           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18  7:51             ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18 11:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-17 16:52         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 17:06           ` Drew Adams
2006-03-17 18:00           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-17 23:27             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18  0:01               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18  5:49                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18  7:48                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18 12:46                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-17 18:30           ` Binaries for W32 (was: W32 version crashes on C-g) Reiner Steib
2006-03-17 18:42             ` Drew Adams
2006-03-17 18:56               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-17 18:58                 ` Drew Adams
2006-03-20 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2006-03-21 10:29                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-22 15:16                       ` Mathias Dahl
2006-03-25 10:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18  1:21           ` W32 version crashes on C-g Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18  6:00             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 11:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 12:45                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 15:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 16:55                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 17:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 20:38                         ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-18 21:42                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 20:46                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-03-19  1:32               ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-21 10:35                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-21 12:43                   ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-21 15:22                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-18 10:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-19  1:44           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18 16:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 17:14           ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-03-18 17:15           ` Chong Yidong
2006-03-18 18:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 18:59             ` Jason Rumney
2006-03-18 19:11               ` Chong Yidong
2006-03-18 22:38                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2006-03-19  0:46           ` Kim F. Storm
2006-03-18 16:27         ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-03-18 17:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 16:29         ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-03-18 18:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 19:04           ` Jason Rumney
2006-03-18 10:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-17 12:58 LENNART BORGMAN

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