From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What exactly is chinese-big5? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:47:58 +0300 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208610745 5279 80.91.229.12 (19 Apr 2008 13:12:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 19 15:13:03 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jmq2j-0002Fd-Ue for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmq25-000220-1r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:49:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmq0t-0001US-50 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:48:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmq0n-0001SQ-SL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:48:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmq0n-0001SG-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jmq0m-0005Cv-UC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([83.130.246.94]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0JZI00HWPUVDET20@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:02:07 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95449 Archived-At: > From: Kenichi Handa > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:28:08 +0900 > > > Is U+FFFD the _only_ character that will be produced for any codepoint > > that is unassigned in the Big5 code space? That is, if I search for > > U+FFFD, will I find _all_ the places where the original file had > > something not belonging to Big5? > > No exactly. U+FFFD is the only character that will be > produced for "any character that can't be unified with > Unicode". Which Big5 character can unified with Unicode is > defined in subst-big5.el in Emacs 22 (I don't know which > Big5 version Dave used to make that file) and in > etc/charsets/BIG5.map in Emacs 23. So, if the dialect of > Big5 is different from what defined in those files, there's > a possibility that some character which the file creater > thinks Big5 is encoded into U+FFFD. Thanks. > That file may be GBK whose code-space is similar to but > wider than Big5. But, it's supported only in Emacs 23. In Emacs 22, cp936 could be a good approximation to GBK, right?