From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 13:16:15 +0300 Message-ID: References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> <86zlr1qjq3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <4822C648.7050901@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210241885 28016 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 10:18:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, jasonr@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 12:18:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ju3Cw-0005SJ-C2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 12:18:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56562 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju3CC-0007cY-2k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:17:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju3C6-0007bL-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:17:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju3C4-0007aA-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:17:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46882 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju3C3-0007Zx-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:17:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout4.012.net.il ([84.95.2.10]:61401) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju3Bo-0005Ss-1W; Thu, 08 May 2008 06:17:28 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([83.130.255.47]) by i_mtaout4.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K0J00MRVP744Q00@i_mtaout4.012.net.il>; Thu, 08 May 2008 13:30:41 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96757 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , > Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 18:35:38 +0900 > > Jason Rumney writes: > > Another problem with it is that it would appear that nothing is > > happening as Emacs is starting. > > Is that really such a problem though? It would be for me: my .emacs processing tends to be very long, due to large sessions loaded by desktop. > Other apps seem to do that quite often. Which is an annoying misfeature, IMO. And most (all?) apps that do this tend to load very quickly, since they don't need to load anything as large as my desktop. > Anyway, a specialized "Starting Emacs..." splash screen could use a simple > hard-wired image and skip all the grot associated with emacs image > loading. [Indeed, just embed the image as a pixmap in the C code...] That could be a good solution, I think. We could even simply show a simple text-only frame with an echo area showing the various messages, to avoid the impression that nothing happens.