From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13699: 24.2.93; multiple defcustoms for one variable Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a9r9s3ua.fsf@lukas.physics.niu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360710698 4946 80.91.229.3 (12 Feb 2013 23:11:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13699@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Roland Winkler" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 13 00:12:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P15-0003TK-QC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:11:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48321 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P0m-0005aq-7L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:11:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P0h-0005ag-5D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:11:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P0f-0001BH-UL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:11:35 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P0f-0001BD-QY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:11:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P17-00035w-I8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:12:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13699 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13699-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13699.136071066611804 (code B ref 13699); Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:12:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13699) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2013 23:11:06 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52754 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P0D-00034L-IU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:11:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5P0C-00034E-BZ for 13699@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Ozj-0002ug-0W; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:10:35 -0500 X-Spook: Baranyi Lon Horiuchi tempest CIA LABLINK explosion X-Ran: '/WFh(Dq^H:b71gA4C>m4/`2=<[tV(w.xv;?Z'N[rCuB>krBK$~6puU+Jwflc (Roland Winkler's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:57:01 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71124 Archived-At: "Roland Winkler" wrote: > The actual value of foo is the original value from bar.el, > but "Original value was baz" denies the fact that this value > stems from bar.el. Similar thing with defvar. > I noticed this problem with the variable mail-signature which > sendmail.el initializes with a value of t. But my old version of vm > also initialized it with a value of nil. That's just a bug in that version of VM. > I suggest that multiple calls of defcustom appearing for the same > variable in different files should be handled consistently so that > it becomes possible to trace back how the value of the variable > came about. Multiple defcustoms (or defvars) for the same variable are bugs, so it is unlikely to be a high priority to improve their treatment.