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From: Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com>
To: immanuel litzroth <ilitzroth@gmail.com>
Cc: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guile in Emacs
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:11:14 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u2x485b0c381004140611s29f51c90x6027e82d53b9dec0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <q2l18f48dce1004140255i55ad2e0byfab92494964f5141@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:55 AM, immanuel litzroth <ilitzroth@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Emacs Lisp is streamlined for editing.  Common Lisp has its own focus.
> Common Lisp doesn't have a focus that I am aware of. It is the language
> that is most close to Emacs Lisp syntactically, and most emacs code that
> doesn't have editor specific stuff will run in Common Lisp & vice versa.
>
>> For an extension language, it is preferable to have a system where you
>> can read through the manual in one day and basically understand it
> The effort to "basically" understand CL is the same as the for scheme. Moreover
> scheme has some exotic stuff like hygienic macros and continuations which are
> not stuff you "basically understand in a day".
>
>> Scheme is a smaller starting point than Common Lisp.
> So with a common lisp system you get:
> 1) compilation to machine code
> 2) standardized implementation of classes
> 3) structures, hashes
> 4) Exceptions
> With a scheme system you get
> 1) call-with-current-continuation
>

And who said you won't get native code, classes, structures, hashes
and exceptions with scheme? They are just not documented in R5RS
(let's forget R6RS ever existed). Most scheme implementations have
these features, they are not portable however.

Which is hardly a concern for Guile and Emacs Guile.


--Stephen

programmer, n:
        A red eyed, mumbling mammal capable of conversing with
inanimate monsters.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <87ljemdzxo.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
2010-02-23  5:31   ` Next pretest, and branching plans Jason Rumney
2010-02-23 18:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-23 21:12       ` Jason Rumney
2010-02-24  6:04     ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-24 13:34       ` Sean Sieger
2010-02-24 15:05         ` Davis Herring
2010-02-24 15:18           ` Sean Sieger
2010-02-24 14:05       ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-25 14:26         ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-26 18:03           ` manuals [was Re: Next pretest, and branching plans] Glenn Morris
2010-02-27  2:32             ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-27 16:52         ` Next pretest, and branching plans Johan Bockgård
2010-03-03  3:52           ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-05  0:31             ` Johan Bockgård
2010-03-05 19:50               ` integer overflow [was Re: Next pretest, and branching plans] Glenn Morris
2010-03-05 22:35                 ` integer overflow Stefan Monnier
2010-03-06  2:55                   ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-06  3:11                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-06  7:03                       ` Helmut Eller
2010-03-06 15:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-06 16:23                           ` Davis Herring
2010-03-06 16:33                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-07  7:52                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-07 16:06                               ` David Kastrup
2010-03-07 17:18                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-07 17:42                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-03-08  4:49                                     ` Jay Belanger
2010-03-08  8:04                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-08 14:41                                   ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 17:32                                     ` Guile in Emacs Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 18:42                                     ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Chad Brown
2010-03-09  7:07                                       ` Ken Raeburn
2010-03-09 16:22                                         ` Guile in Emacs Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-10  8:07                                           ` Ken Raeburn
2010-03-10 13:58                                             ` David Kastrup
2010-03-09  3:19                                     ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Richard Stallman
2010-04-11 23:33                                       ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-12 12:30                                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-12 20:05                                           ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 12:44                                             ` Guile in Emacs Bruce Stephens
2010-04-13 15:51                                               ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 16:07                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 18:56                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 19:22                                                     ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 10:14                                                   ` Bruce Stephens
2010-04-14 14:10                                                   ` joakim
2010-04-13 19:13                                                 ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14  1:47                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-14  3:33                                                     ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 23:33                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14  5:02                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14  6:45                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 19:07                                                       ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-14 19:34                                                         ` Bruce Stephens
2010-04-14 20:09                                                         ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2010-04-15  7:34                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 23:33                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15  3:52                                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-15  6:01                                                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  6:54                                                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-15 11:59                                                               ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-15 12:49                                                                 ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 13:54                                                                   ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-15 14:03                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15 16:13                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-16 13:48                                                                       ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16 14:03                                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-16 14:25                                                                           ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16 14:25                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-16 14:39                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-16 14:40                                                                           ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16  8:27                                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-17  4:41                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-19  7:52                                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-16 22:29                                                                     ` Emacs Info manuals (was: Guile in Emacs) Juri Linkov
2010-04-15 16:11                                                                 ` Guile in Emacs Drew Adams
2010-04-15  7:21                                                             ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15  7:36                                                               ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  8:34                                                                 ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15  9:06                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  9:45                                                                     ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-15 10:39                                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 18:47                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15 22:42                                                             ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-04-15 22:50                                                               ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-04-17  4:40                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15 23:02                                                             ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-17  4:40                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-17  6:46                                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-17 19:55                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 13:30                                                     ` John Wiegley
2010-04-14 14:18                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-14 15:40                                                       ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14  7:51                                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-04-14  8:42                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14  9:55                                                     ` immanuel litzroth
2010-04-14 10:28                                                       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 11:25                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-14 12:26                                                           ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 16:49                                                             ` Ken Raeburn
2010-04-14 18:29                                                               ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14 20:02                                                                 ` Ken Raeburn
2010-04-14 11:23                                                       ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 13:11                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-14 13:11                                                       ` Stephen Eilert [this message]
2010-04-14 13:49                                                         ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-14 15:47                                                     ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14 16:41                                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-04-14 20:10                                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-15 10:38                                                       ` Leo
2010-03-06 19:04                           ` integer overflow Helmut Eller
2010-03-06 21:26                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-07  7:51                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-07 19:05                       ` Johan Bockgård
2010-03-06 20:35                   ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-13  3:10     ` Next pretest, and branching plans Christoph
2010-03-13  7:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-13 14:54         ` Christoph
2010-03-13 18:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-13 19:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-14  2:38         ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-14  2:50           ` Christoph
2010-03-14  3:07             ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-14 17:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-17  0:29               ` Christoph
2010-03-17  4:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-17 12:44                   ` Jason Rumney

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