From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Chinese characters support Date: 12 May 2003 20:27:15 +0100 Organization: freedom2surf Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <841xz6q3nc.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <20030511.011725.71089640.acmuller@gol.com> <84he8292dt.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052767979 19218 80.91.224.249 (12 May 2003 19:32:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 12 21:32:57 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FJ1o-0004wP-00 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 21:32:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FJ0L-0007HB-00 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:30:33 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!kibo.news.demon.net!demon!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!news.freedom2surf.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.137.103.251 Original-X-Trace: news.freedom2surf.net 1052767654 5696 195.137.103.251 (12 May 2003 19:27:34 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@freedom2surf.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:27:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: .PruP48JRO{Z6Rfz?YkZ>)zR+7!Up"`!1Cvq{fGd)@K; y]C:8r\CrJ^Mj\_U"9*WD2 I#zdK_#tw]y9*Y$?ge&b23Zt7zpknL{)F7Px4DVSY6b9dg[^VtkN-R_$YJ0cL''j[,}O#k{k| User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:113122 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9618 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9618 Charles Muller writes: > If you check the archives for "utf-8+cjk", you will see that we have > had a few threads in the past year that dealt with problems trying > to display CJK and other international scripts, in which the advice > was given to look at the Hello file. As a person who has been > working with international scripts and utf-8 for a number years, I > know firsthand the ability to be able to read this file doesn't > usually mean much. If HELLO displays correctly, it means that Emacs has all it need in order to display characters, and the problem lies in the encoding/decoding process. If we recoded HELLO into UTF-8, then if people were having problems displaying utf-8 encoded text, looking at HELLO would just not work. At least now, it is a way to quickly narrow down the problem. > People who recommend checking this file are usually people who don't > use double-byte East Asian languages. No, they are people that know how Emacs works, and are trying to help by narrowing down the problem.