From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: generate 2) other pages for Info
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:18:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <u1wcpyyul.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sl55a2kb.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (message from Bastien on Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:17:40 +0200)
> From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:17:40 +0200
> Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> Imagine someone is looking for the command that add a ChangeLog entry.
> Here are a few different searching paths he might go through:
>
> 1. His first reflex is to go to the Emacs manual. Great! It's there.
>
> 2. He thinks he can use `finder-by-keyword' (C-h P) for that. If he is
> brave enough to go to the end of the list, he will find "tools", then
> add-log.el, then he will stumble on "This facility is documented in
> the Emacs Manual." Okay, then he should have gone there first.
>
> 3. He is used to `apropos-command' (C-h a). He tries that and look for
> "ChangeLog". Bad luck. He will find this:
>
> log-edit-add-to-changelog M-x ... RET
> log-edit-insert-changelog M-x ... RET
My personal recommendation is use the Help commands in a different
order:
1. Info-index (`i' in Info mode)
2. M-x apropos
3. M-x apropos-documentation
> So here is what a personal help manager could store:
>
> | searched | found | manual |
> |-----------------------+----------------------+---------------------------|
> | Add a ChangeLog entry | add-change-log-entry | (info "(emacs)Change Log) |
>
> (This is actually what I'm trying to use inside my org-mode file.)
After 10 years of using Emacs, this index will become so huge that it
will be unusable, I'm pretty sure.
> > I think only adding various index entries including most synonyms
> > (e.g. "revert", "refresh", "update", ...) will help to find the entry.
>
> The main job of the personal help manager would be to be able to find
> these synonyms. I guess different people would use different synonyms
> sets (not mentionning language-dependant issues).
We could collect those synonyms for them (we actually do that today,
in the index entries we place in the manual, please take a look).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-23 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-23 9:47 generate 1) virtual index and 2) other pages for Info; 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window Drew Adams
2007-09-23 11:09 ` Bastien
2007-09-23 12:03 ` generate 2) other pages for Info Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 12:38 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-23 14:17 ` Bastien
2007-09-23 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-09-24 0:27 ` Bastien
2007-09-23 21:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 11:41 ` generate 1) virtual index Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 20:42 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24 7:09 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 11:45 ` generate 2) other pages for Info Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 12:00 ` generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 19:14 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-23 20:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 0:20 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-24 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24 2:01 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-27 21:21 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-27 21:34 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-27 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-27 21:41 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-27 21:53 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-28 19:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-28 19:33 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-28 22:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-30 2:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-30 8:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-30 23:37 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-30 23:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-01 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 23:39 ` info.el patch to open node in new window [was: generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window] Drew Adams
2007-09-26 8:56 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-26 15:02 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-29 22:44 ` info.el patch to open node in new window Juri Linkov
2007-09-30 2:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-29 22:41 ` generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link " Juri Linkov
2007-09-30 2:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-29 22:43 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-30 2:18 ` Drew Adams
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