From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What IDE features do we need? Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:26:29 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ve2ac2eo.fsf@jurta.org> <20080422115216.GA2609@muc.de> <87zlrleftm.fsf@jurta.org> <87zlrktiwf.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209054420 32391 80.91.229.12 (24 Apr 2008 16:27:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:27:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tassilo@member.fsf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 24 18:27:35 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jp4II-0003Ns-Vw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:27:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47005 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jp4Hd-0003tj-1Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:26:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jp4HO-0003j9-RP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:26:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jp4HN-0003iB-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:26:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43396 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jp4HN-0003hz-Mo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jp4HN-0005cf-54 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:26:37 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([83.130.1.82]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0JZU00BZX8ZRFPK2@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:40:49 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95889 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:26:52 -0400 > Cc: Tassilo Horn , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Emacs already has infrastructure for most of those features (in etags > > and in Ebrowse), sometimes even more than one package that offers a > > different implementation of the same functionality, but we need better > > UI for them and better graphical methods of presenting the output. > > Refactoring requires a lot more infrastructure than what etags and > ebrowse provide. I'm not convinced, but I won't argue.