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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Roland.Winkler@physik.uni-erlangen.de
Subject: Re: proced: ppid of process ID 0 can be 0
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:08:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u1vw0etsp.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvdtd6ibj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Roland Winkler <Roland.Winkler@physik.uni-erlangen.de>,  lekktu@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:06 -0500
> 
> The primitives should ensure that what they return forms a forest.

You mean a tree.

> I.e. under POSIX, they should treat a "ppid == 0" as meaning that
> there's no parent (i.e. the data returned to Elisp should never say "the
> parent is process 0" but should instead say "this process doesn't have
> a parent").

For me, code that calls process-tree-root-p (say) is much more
self-explanatory than a test for a missing parent pid attribute.  It
is also more reliable, since ppid attribute could be missing for some
other reason, like failure to access the attribute.

So I don't understand why you insist on the above, please feel free to
explain what advantages do you see there.

Btw, is the above really mandated by Posix?  Any references to that?




  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-22  4:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-20  2:52 proced: ppid of process ID 0 can be 0 Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20  3:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-20  4:31   ` Chong Yidong
2008-12-20 19:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-20 10:20   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20 11:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-20 19:41   ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-20 21:02     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-20 22:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-20 22:41       ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-21  4:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-21  4:48           ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-21 19:17             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-21 21:26               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22  4:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 10:41                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22 19:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 19:26                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22  2:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22  4:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-12-22  4:17                   ` Miles Bader
2008-12-22 19:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22  8:54                   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-12-22 10:43                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-12-22 10:50                       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2008-12-22 18:03                       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-22 10:59                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-22 19:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 19:37                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-12-22 19:59                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-12-22 12:23                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22 19:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-22 22:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23  4:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-23 12:28                           ` Roland Winkler
2008-12-23 14:44                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23 19:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-23 20:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-23 22:34                                 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-12-24  2:34                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24  4:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 16:47                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24  4:15                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 16:47                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24 18:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-24 18:55                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-24 21:12                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-30 17:11                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-30 22:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-12-31  1:40                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-12-22  8:28               ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-12-21  2:18       ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-12-24  7:42 grischka

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