From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] (woman-always-choose-first-hit): New defcustom. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:13:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <00163646d11aec13c30464dff004@google.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236831220 30238 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2009 04:13:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: erich@cozi.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eric.hanchrow@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: xahlee@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 12 05:14:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LhcJr-0003b8-1f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:14:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33637 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LhcIU-0001QD-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:13:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LhcIQ-0001Py-Fy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LhcIO-0001Pm-Ru for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52471 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LhcIO-0001Pj-Mr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]:14054) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LhcIM-0007bC-QS; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:13:23 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout1.012.net.il by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KGD00300KSK3K00@i-mtaout1.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:14:04 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.228.91]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KGD00F4WL3FK480@i-mtaout1.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:14:04 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <00163646d11aec13c30464dff004@google.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109583 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:08:09 +0000 > From: xahlee@gmail.com > Cc:=20 >=20 > the number of times i tried to use WoMan as a replacement of unix's > =E2=80=9Cman=E2=80=9D utility, but i find it unusable. Here's some = problems i encountered: The problems you mention are a far cry from making WoMan ``unusable''= . > =E2=80=A2 I had aliased =E2=80=9Cman=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9Cwoman= =E2=80=9D, but noticed that sometimes when i type =20 > =E2=80=9CMx man=E2=80=9D it still calls =E2=80=9Cman=E2=80=9D despi= te this. (haven't looked into what =20 > causes this or how this happens) How's that a problem with WoMan? > =E2=80=A2 When calling =E2=80=9Cwoman=E2=80=9D, it takes some 3 sec= s to start up. What kind of a CPU do you have? Here it takes 1 second. > (probably only happen when called first time in a session) Yes. > On the other hand, =E2=80=9Cman=E2=80=9D starts right away without = this delay. And then does the same after you type RET. The advantage of WoMan is that it offers you completion for man-page names, while `man' doesn't= . > =E2=80=A2 another flaw, perhaps reasonable, is that =E2=80=9Cwoman= =E2=80=9D does not work for some =20 > =E2=80=9Cman=E2=80=9D pages. eg recently i was trying to do =E2= =80=9Cwoman=E2=80=9D on =E2=80=9Ckillall=E2=80=9D on OS X =20 > 10.4.x, and it returns > =E2=80=9C.Dd June 25, 1995 > .Os > .Dt KILLALL 1 > .Sh NAME > .Nm killall > ...=E2=80=9D And why do you think `man' doesn't have such problems, sometimes? It all depends on the troff back-end you have installed vs the man pages= .