From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Path for system-wide .eln files Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2020 22:01:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83o8qocd32.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33800"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Paul Eggert , Eli Zaretskii , Yuri Khan , Stefan Monnier , Andrea Corallo To: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 04 22:02:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEHuc-0008cY-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 22:02:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEHub-0000dY-G6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:02:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50758) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEHu7-00005e-2R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gentoo.org ([2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]:45323 helo=smtp.gentoo.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEHu4-00076d-SM; Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:01:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo via's message of "Fri, 04 Sep 2020 19:47:35 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4; envelope-from=ulm@gentoo.org; helo=smtp.gentoo.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/04 16:01:42 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254530 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 04 Sep 2020, Emacs development discussions wrote: > Ulrich Mueller writes: >> Why would the architecture be included in that path? > The reason is that this folder name is the same we use to disambiguate > the Emacs version for every folder in `comp-eln-load-path'. I was asked > to add the version there so is more user friendly and I think is a good > suggestion. So now became like: > ~/.emacs.d/eln-cache/28.0.50-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-679caf986.../ > At this point the system cache was > /usr/local/lib/emacs/28.0.50/native-lisp/28.0.50-x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-679caf986.../ > I thought this is reduntant and removed the version there. The difference between the two directories is that the home directory may be shared between different architectures, while /usr/lib (or /usr/local/lib) is _not_ shared by its definition. Therefore the architecture makes sense in ~/.emacs.d/ but is redundant in /usr/lib/. >> That's not what packages normally do (except for compilers and other >> programs of the binary toolchain). > Well doesn't sound that different :) > I'll admit I don't have any strong opinion/interest on this directory > topic, as long as we find a satisfying solution for everyone is no big > deal to re-add the version there if we like. I'd very much prefer (also from a distro point of view) if the directory trees in /usr/share and /usr/lib would have a similar structure. That is, /usr/lib/emacs//..., and no arch triplet.