From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:16:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ob4fg3zp.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403389020 30433 80.91.229.3 (21 Jun 2014 22:17:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 22 00:16:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WyTaf-0002Ed-0g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jun 2014 00:16:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46616 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyTae-0001xs-CI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:16:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47181) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyTaa-0001xl-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:16:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyTaZ-0001wF-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58379) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyTaZ-0001wB-5a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:16:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WyTaY-0008W0-82; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 18:16:46 -0400 X-Spook: Al Jazeera Syria virus data haven David John Oates bank X-Ran: |kHh)@|t_.DVV=|Q=`y62FcLRa3T'|@}lC*i/LL7Su1O< (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:26:40 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172621 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> | recentf-mode | 43 | > > I don't see any reason not to enable this by default. Me neither, but I think it needs some work, since it uses features (easymenu, tree-widget) that I imagine we do not want to preload. I think maybe it needs to be split into a preloaded core that does the basic stuff, and an autoloaded remainder that does the more complex stuff (eg the tree-widget part). I think the easymenu stuff should just be dropped; ie the menu position should be fixed. (I anticipate howls of protest from the usual suspects.) No other standard menu-item is customizable in this way. >> | dired-x | 33 | > > Fine by me. I still think it contains "a few useful features and a lot of cruft." (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-03/msg00718.html)