* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
@ 2009-07-09 20:12 Nelson H. F. Beebe
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From: Nelson H. F. Beebe @ 2009-07-09 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug; +Cc: beebe
I'm doing "make install" for several builds of emacs-23.0.96, and I
just noticed this output (with the GNU default of prefix=/usr/local):
chmod -R a+r \
/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.96 \
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp \
/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.96/etc \
/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.96/lisp \
/usr/local/share/info
While it is appropriate to run chmod at installation time for a
package's own files, it is HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE to run chmod on
directories and files belonging to other packages. The directories
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
/usr/local/share/info
need to be removed from the install command chmod processing.
Their contents, and file permissions, are not the business of
emacs-x.y.z release installations. A given site, including ours, may
have local reasons for nondefault permissions in those directories.
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* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
@ 2009-07-12 18:50 Chong Yidong
2009-07-13 0:31 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-07-12 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nelson H. F. Beebe; +Cc: 3800
> chmod -R a+r \
> /usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.96 \
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp \
> /usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.96/etc \
> /usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.96/lisp \
> /usr/local/share/info
>
> While it is appropriate to run chmod at installation time for a
> package's own files, it is HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE to run chmod on
> directories and files belonging to other packages. The directories
>
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
> /usr/local/share/info
>
> need to be removed from the install command chmod processing.
Fair enough. But the installation process needs to read the contents of
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp and /usr/local/share/info in order to
function properly.
How about doing `u+r' instead of `a+r' for those directories?
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* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
2009-07-12 18:50 bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior Chong Yidong
@ 2009-07-13 0:31 ` Glenn Morris
2009-07-13 2:44 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-13 19:03 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-07-13 0:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: 3800, Nelson H. F. Beebe
Chong Yidong wrote:
>> chmod -R a+r \
[...]
> Fair enough. But the installation process needs to read the contents of
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp and /usr/local/share/info in order to
> function properly.
>
> How about doing `u+r' instead of `a+r' for those directories?
("u" is probably root when installing)
I imagine it is the "-R" that is the problem. I guess the install
should make sure the directories themselves, and those files we
install in them, are readable, but leave other things under these
directories alone.
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* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
2009-07-13 0:31 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-07-13 2:44 ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-13 6:30 ` Glenn Morris
2009-07-13 19:03 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-07-13 2:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 3800, Nelson H. F. Beebe
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> I imagine it is the "-R" that is the problem. I guess the install
> should make sure the directories themselves, and those files we
> install in them, are readable, but leave other things under these
> directories alone.
No, the reporter specifically complained about making these readable:
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
/usr/local/share/info
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* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
2009-07-13 2:44 ` Chong Yidong
@ 2009-07-13 6:30 ` Glenn Morris
2009-07-13 6:44 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-07-13 6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: 3800, Nelson H. F. Beebe
Chong Yidong wrote:
> No, the reporter specifically complained about making these readable:
>
> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
> /usr/local/share/info
That I can't understand.
Super-top-secret info files can be installed in a non-standard
location, and added to the INFOPATH of those who need them.
Ditto with site-lisp-files-that-aren't-really-site-lisp-files.
Or emacs can be installed somewhere else than /usr/local.
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* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
2009-07-13 6:30 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-07-13 6:44 ` Glenn Morris
2009-07-13 19:04 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-07-13 6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 3800; +Cc: Chong Yidong, Nelson H. F. Beebe
Glenn Morris wrote:
> Chong Yidong wrote:
>
>> No, the reporter specifically complained about making these readable:
>>
>> /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
>> /usr/local/share/info
>
> That I can't understand.
But if that is the issue, how about only setting the permissions if we
create those directories?
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* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
2009-07-13 0:31 ` Glenn Morris
2009-07-13 2:44 ` Chong Yidong
@ 2009-07-13 19:03 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nelson H. F. Beebe @ 2009-07-13 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Chong Yidong, beebe
>> I imagine it is the "-R" that is the problem. I guess the install
>> should make sure the directories themselves, and those files we
>> install in them, are readable ...
The permissions of directories not owned by the package must not
be touched. If a specific permission mode is needed, and an
existing file or directory lacks that permission, then "make install"
should warn about the problem.
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- University of Utah FAX: +1 801 581 4148 -
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* bug#3800: [emacs-devel] emacs-23.0.96 make install misbehavior
2009-07-13 6:44 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-07-13 19:04 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nelson H. F. Beebe @ 2009-07-13 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 3800, Chong Yidong, Nelson H. F. Beebe
>> how about only setting the permissions if we create those directories?
That is fine, because there is no change to the permissions of
existing files and subdirectories.
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