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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A better autogen.sh
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:43:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tv1v27ftvl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1Pzjfm-0003S3-Uq@fencepost.gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> How would I know that a change needed, and (more importantly) how
> would I know what to update there?

I assume you at least have access to a POSIX platform, eg fencepost,
where you can run autoconf once in a while.

> And what do you mean by "your src/ version there"?  How will it help,
> if it is just a result of editing config.in with Sed?  I have no other
> src/ version.

The src/config.in version you get from running autoconf on a POSIX
platform.

> nt/config.nt is maintained by hand, allright, but that's done by
> tracking changes in src/config.in.  If src/config.in is removed from
> the repository, maintaining nt/config.nt will hit a snag, because
> there will be no file to "bzr diff" against the previous version and
> see what's changed, and how else would someone know how to update
> config.nt?

Whenever an AC_DEFINE is changed in configure.in, config.in might need
to be changed. Or, diff your generated src/config.in against the
msdos/config.in in the repository.

>> > autogen.sh could begin by removing config.in.
>> 
>> That's a bit ugly
>
> Why ugly, move-if-change should be fine.  What am I missing?

It's ugly because then everybody has a src/config.in file that appears
to be locally modified all the time. You're also relying on someone with
access to a POSIX platform to keep regenerating src/config.in and
committing it whenever it changes. Trying to avoid the need to do this
is part of the motivation for this proposal.

> It will be, if there's a practical way to know how to update the
> private config.in without having a Posix platform nearby.

I hope it's not unreasonable to assume the MS-DOS maintainer can access
a POSIX platform once in a while. Every Emacs developer can get a
fencepost account.

If it were me, I'd keep the same version of autoconf installed. I'd run
it periodically and diff the generated src/config.in against
msdos/config.in. If there was a difference, I'd copy the former to the
latter and commit it.


Personally I think it's still worth removing configure even if
config.in has to stay, because the latter changes a lot less often.
But I hope src/config.in doesn't have to be kept just for the sake of
MS.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-16  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-20 18:47 Still unable to build trunk Chong Yidong
2011-01-20 19:39 ` Jan Djärv
2011-01-20 22:16   ` Chong Yidong
2011-01-21 20:42     ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-22  1:29       ` Chong Yidong
2011-01-22  7:25         ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-22 15:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 15:33             ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 17:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 17:35                 ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 18:14                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 18:47                     ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 19:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 20:08                         ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 21:23                 ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-24  1:01                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-24  1:22                     ` Miles Bader
2011-01-24  8:48                     ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-24 16:26                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08  4:22                         ` A better autogen.sh [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] Glenn Morris
2011-03-08 19:51                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 16:10                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-03-15 20:22                             ` A better autogen.sh Glenn Morris
2011-03-15 21:52                               ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-15 22:09                                 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-15 22:37                                   ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-15 22:58                                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16  4:05                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16  4:14                                       ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16  4:17                                         ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16  5:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16  6:39                                           ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16  8:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16  9:08                                               ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 10:12                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 10:47                                                   ` joakim
2011-03-16 11:53                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 12:25                                                       ` joakim
2011-03-16 12:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 17:52                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 18:54                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 20:40                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 11:33                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-16 11:21                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-16  6:43                                           ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2011-03-16  8:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16  9:23                                               ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 10:37                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 17:17                                               ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 17:45                                                 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 18:16                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 18:20                                                     ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 19:13                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 18:15                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 15:34                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 18:09                                 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 19:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 19:40                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 20:56                                     ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-17 20:36                                       ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-17 20:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 20:44                                           ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-17 20:51                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-18  2:02                                         ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 18:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 19:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-28 20:29                           ` A better autogen.sh [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] chad
2011-03-28 20:58                             ` A better autogen.sh Glenn Morris
2011-03-28 21:45                               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-28 21:51                                 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-29  1:17                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-29  2:21                                 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-29  3:36                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-29  6:39                                     ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-29 12:09                                       ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-29 12:19                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-29 12:23                                           ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-29 14:13                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-29 15:25                                               ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-29 16:38                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-29 18:46                                             ` chad
2011-03-30  6:15                                               ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-30 11:27                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-30 12:03                                                   ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-30 17:48                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-30 19:26                                                       ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-30 20:02                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-30 20:14                                                           ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-30 21:36                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-30 21:41                                                               ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-31 14:36                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-28 21:57                             ` A better autogen.sh [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-24 18:14                   ` Still unable to build trunk Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-24 20:58                     ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-24 21:07                       ` Andreas Schwab
2011-01-24 22:47                       ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-25  6:01                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-25 19:58                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 20:14                             ` Savannah loggerhead [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] Glenn Morris
2011-01-26  0:44                             ` Still unable to build trunk Richard Stallman
2011-01-26  3:56                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 12:35                       ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-26 13:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:35                         ` Andy Moreton
2011-01-26 13:42                         ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-27  9:38                           ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-27 11:16                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-27 11:20                               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-27 11:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-27 18:27                                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-29 11:49                                     ` Darren Hoo
2011-01-29 12:19                                       ` Darren Hoo
2011-01-29 13:04                         ` Eli Zaretskii

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