From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A better autogen.sh
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:43:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tv1v27ftvl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1Pzjfm-0003S3-Uq@fencepost.gnu.org
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> How would I know that a change needed, and (more importantly) how
> would I know what to update there?
I assume you at least have access to a POSIX platform, eg fencepost,
where you can run autoconf once in a while.
> And what do you mean by "your src/ version there"? How will it help,
> if it is just a result of editing config.in with Sed? I have no other
> src/ version.
The src/config.in version you get from running autoconf on a POSIX
platform.
> nt/config.nt is maintained by hand, allright, but that's done by
> tracking changes in src/config.in. If src/config.in is removed from
> the repository, maintaining nt/config.nt will hit a snag, because
> there will be no file to "bzr diff" against the previous version and
> see what's changed, and how else would someone know how to update
> config.nt?
Whenever an AC_DEFINE is changed in configure.in, config.in might need
to be changed. Or, diff your generated src/config.in against the
msdos/config.in in the repository.
>> > autogen.sh could begin by removing config.in.
>>
>> That's a bit ugly
>
> Why ugly, move-if-change should be fine. What am I missing?
It's ugly because then everybody has a src/config.in file that appears
to be locally modified all the time. You're also relying on someone with
access to a POSIX platform to keep regenerating src/config.in and
committing it whenever it changes. Trying to avoid the need to do this
is part of the motivation for this proposal.
> It will be, if there's a practical way to know how to update the
> private config.in without having a Posix platform nearby.
I hope it's not unreasonable to assume the MS-DOS maintainer can access
a POSIX platform once in a while. Every Emacs developer can get a
fencepost account.
If it were me, I'd keep the same version of autoconf installed. I'd run
it periodically and diff the generated src/config.in against
msdos/config.in. If there was a difference, I'd copy the former to the
latter and commit it.
Personally I think it's still worth removing configure even if
config.in has to stay, because the latter changes a lot less often.
But I hope src/config.in doesn't have to be kept just for the sake of
MS.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-16 6:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-20 18:47 Still unable to build trunk Chong Yidong
2011-01-20 19:39 ` Jan Djärv
2011-01-20 22:16 ` Chong Yidong
2011-01-21 20:42 ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-22 1:29 ` Chong Yidong
2011-01-22 7:25 ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-22 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 15:33 ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 17:35 ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 18:47 ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 20:08 ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-23 21:23 ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-24 1:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-24 1:22 ` Miles Bader
2011-01-24 8:48 ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-24 16:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 4:22 ` A better autogen.sh [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] Glenn Morris
2011-03-08 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 16:10 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-03-15 20:22 ` A better autogen.sh Glenn Morris
2011-03-15 21:52 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-15 22:09 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-15 22:37 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-15 22:58 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 4:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 4:14 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 4:17 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 5:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 6:39 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 9:08 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 10:47 ` joakim
2011-03-16 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 12:25 ` joakim
2011-03-16 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 17:52 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 20:40 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 11:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-16 11:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-16 6:43 ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2011-03-16 8:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 9:23 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 17:17 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 17:45 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 18:20 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 15:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 18:09 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 20:56 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-17 20:36 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-17 20:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 20:44 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-17 20:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-18 2:02 ` Paul Eggert
2011-03-16 18:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-16 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-28 20:29 ` A better autogen.sh [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] chad
2011-03-28 20:58 ` A better autogen.sh Glenn Morris
2011-03-28 21:45 ` Chad Brown
2011-03-28 21:51 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-29 1:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-29 2:21 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-29 3:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-29 6:39 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-29 12:09 ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-29 12:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-29 12:23 ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-29 14:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-29 15:25 ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-29 16:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-29 18:46 ` chad
2011-03-30 6:15 ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-30 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-30 12:03 ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-30 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-30 19:26 ` Jim Meyering
2011-03-30 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-30 20:14 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-30 21:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-30 21:41 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-31 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-28 21:57 ` A better autogen.sh [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-24 18:14 ` Still unable to build trunk Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-24 20:58 ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-24 21:07 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-01-24 22:47 ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-25 6:01 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-25 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 20:14 ` Savannah loggerhead [was Re: Still unable to build trunk] Glenn Morris
2011-01-26 0:44 ` Still unable to build trunk Richard Stallman
2011-01-26 3:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 12:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-26 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:35 ` Andy Moreton
2011-01-26 13:42 ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-27 9:38 ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-27 11:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-27 11:20 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-27 11:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-27 18:27 ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-29 11:49 ` Darren Hoo
2011-01-29 12:19 ` Darren Hoo
2011-01-29 13:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
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